We shorted many of our numbers, because they seemed so overwhelmingly large. In my notes for Sunday, wrote rates rather than try to keep an actual count. We counted for 2.5 hours, so the math is: (Count/min)*60*2.5 = number encountered during watch From that I got: California Gulls 100*60*2.5 = 15000 (5000 reported) Northern Fulmar 10*60*2.5 = 1500 (300 reported) Pacific Loons 80*60*2.5 = 12000 (8000 reported) I always hesitate reporting math based values, in part because the rate is not uniform over the morning and making enough rate counts over a morning to be statistically robust requires not paying attention to all the lower frequency action which is often way more interesting. But I've also had folks argue with the big numbers, usually folks who've not witnessed these kinds of events, who think I'm being over dramatic. So I habitually trim them. But given all the supporting data from other locations, I may go back into the eBird list and fix these (eBird filters don't like these big numbers either). -- Mike Patterson Astoria, OR String Theory http://www.surfbirds.com/community-blogs/northcoastdiaries/?p=2182 OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx