Hi All, To introduce myself, I am a fourth year PhD student at the University of California, San Diego. My work is perhaps unusual for list in that (to date) I have not been exploring numerical cognition directly. Rather, I study a group of people who experience synesthesia, an unusual mingling of the senses. For example, some people will report that they see colors when viewing letters and numbers, while others will report colors, and spatial forms when thinking of the months of the year, the days of the week or sequences of numbers. Others report seeing colors for music, or words (auditorily presented). Even rarer forms involve people feeling tactile shapes when tasting something or when listening to music, or even tasting food from hearing words. My specific research has focused on a group of synesthetes that report seeing colors when looking at letters and/or numbers. There are four defining characteristics of synesthesia: 1) it is automatic 2) it is involuntary, 3) it is consistent (i.e., reproducible) and 4) it is systematic. These four characteristics can be seen in all synesthetes, while other characteristics (such as having a spatial extent, or an emotional connotation) are seen in only some synesthetes. Research back as far as 1880 has demonstrated that synesthesia runs in families, and is more common in women than it is in men, suggesting that it might be a genetic condition, with an x-linked dominant mode of inheritance (although the loci studies have not yet been carried out). More recent research has demonstrated that, although each synesthete reports experiencing idiosyncratic colors, synesthetes are quite consistent over test-retest intervals of more than one year. Additionally, as you might expect given that synesthesia is automatic and involuntary, synesthetes show Stroop-like interference if they are presented with "miscolored" numbers (for example, if a 2, experienced as green is presented in red ink). My early research was based on the attempt to prove that reports of synesthesia were not only veridical reports, but were reports of genuine sensory states, and to show that the synesthetically experienced colors were able to influence performance on psychophyscial tasks. For example, we presented synesthetes and non-synesthetes with displays composed of numbers (e.g., a field of 2s) and embedded a figure composed of (e.g.) 5s (either a square, rectangle, diamond, or triangle) in the display. For non-synesthetes, this task is extremely difficult, as the 5s are mirror images of the 2s. On the other hand, for a synesthete who sees (say) 5s as red and 2s green, this is seen as a red triangle against a green background, and, accordingly, pops-out. In a second experiment, we took advantage of a phenomenon known as crowding. If a single stimulus is presented in the periphery, it is easy to identify. However, if presented in the presence of other, flanking items, the target stimulus becomes much more difficult to identify. Previous research had shown that the magnitude of the effect is reduced when the target and flankers are presented in different colors. We reasoned, that, if synesthetic colors were truly sensory, they should, like real colors, reduce the magnitude of the crowding effect. We found that, indeed they do. However, the most interesting thing about this was the reports of our synesthetes when we asked them afterwards about the experiment. They reported, "Although I couldn't see the number, I saw red, so I know it must have been a five" or (for a synesthete who sees colors for letters) "I couldn't see the letter, but I saw green, so I know it must have been an H." We originally tested two synesthetes, and found that they performed better than non-synesthetes on these two tasks. However, further testing with a larger sample showed that only some of the synesthetes performed better than non-synesthetes. Based on these results (here's where the numcog list really comes in) we proposed that synesthesia arises from a genetically mediated failure of pruning between adjacent brain regions involved in recognizing letters and numbers in the fusiform gyrus, and adjacent regions involved in the processing of colors (V4/V8/hV4, there's a huge controversy about this in the color vision literature). However, since this time, we have continued to interview and test additional synesthetes, and we find that, while some of them do show the improved behavioral performance we found in our first few synesthetes, not all of them do. Interestingly, when we went back and looked more carefully at their experiential reports, we found that those that performed better than controls reported that they experienced colors for letters and numbers, that they experienced these colors out in the world, and that they experienced colors for only these classes of stimuli. However, in the synesthetes that did not perform better than controls, we found that they reported that their colors were seen in the minds eye, were often experienced for days of the week and months of the year in addition to numbers, but often did not experience colors for letters, and reported experiencing spatial forms for the numbers and calendars (for example, numbers might be visualized as an ascending staircase, going up and to the left, or the months of the year might be experienced as having a racetrack shape, with each month colored differently). Based on the different stages of numerical processing in the triple-code model, we proposed that these "higher" synesthetes perhaps had cross-activation in the HIPS/angular gyrus region, instead of in the fusiform region we had proposed for the "lower" synesthetes that we tested first, and that it is this cross-activation between higher, more abstract, stages of numerical processing, and spatial representations in the PSPL (see, for example, Anna's work on this topic) that leads to the spatial experiences when thinking of letters and numbers that these synesthetes report. Current fMRI research, conducted in collaboration with Geoff Boynton at the Salk Institute supports this general distinction. We find that, for all synesthetes we have tested, activity in color selective regions is greater when viewing graphemes than viewing non-linguistic stimuli matched for visual complexity (Mauro Pesenti kindly lent us his stimuli). No such difference was observed for control subjects. Additionally, we find that there is a great deal of variability in the responses in V1 for different synesthetes, and that the fMRI response in early visual areas (V1-V4) predicts behavioral performance on our psychophysical tasks. Converging ERP data on a subset of the same synesthetes by Noam Sagiv and Lynn Robertson at UC Berkeley also suggests that the differences in behavioral performance and self-report map onto differences in the neural locus of synesthesia. Because of these results, I have become more and more interested in the connection between spatial representation and numerical representation, and will be beginning my post-doc in the fall of 2004 with Stan Dehaene examining the relationship between spatial processing and numerical processing in the parietal lobe through the use of fMRI. In addition, I will continue to work with synesthesia, although less intensely, to try to make more sense of the spatial forms observed in certain forms of synesthesia. Sorry to have rambled on so long, but synesthesia still isn't that well known, even among cognitive neuroscientists, and I wanted to give a bit more background on this work so that people on the list will understand where I am coming from. Cheers, Ed Edward M. Hubbard, MA Brain and Perception Laboratory University of California, San Diego 9500 Gilman Dr. 0109 La Jolla, CA 92093-0109 and SNL-B Salk Institute for Biological Studies 10010 North Torrey Pines Road La Jolla, California 92037-1099 edhubbard@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://psy.ucsd.edu/~edhubbard ------------------------------------------------------- This message has been brought to you by the numcog mailing list at freelists.org. If you would like to unsubscribe from the list, send an email to numcog-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and put "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the Subject line of the email. 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