Tom, I agree with all you say. with one more comment, it's easy to say "we are listening," that's not realy the point. The whole point is to respond. Institutions, government boddies, councils, the RNIB, say they listen, this may be correct, they certailnly don't respond to commentary from user groups and concerned parties. Joe On Thu, 15 May 2014 17:22:02 +0100 Tom Reid <tom.reid21@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: the recent changes to the newspaper and mag services have been an almost total mess. It's now a service where an attempt at cheaper automation has sacrificed it's customers and, according to someone on another list, has involved staff redundancies. Instead of a system which was well-structured an easy to follow, we now have, at least in the newspapers, a virtually unstructured mess. Instead of sections, we have masses of repetitions, news..., news... news... for instance. Arguments about sharing pages with sighted people are spurious. We can hardly find stuff ourselves. Where there is some manual intervention, as in new scientist, things are better. This shows how staff reduction has failed. I read papers and mags for fun and this is too much like hard work. I personally used to use Speakon which was beautifully organised and allowed for powerful searching and organising of material, now... I'm seriously considering not re-subscribing, not for the money, but, because rnib has treated its so-called customers with such disregard. They say they are listening. lets hope so. tom -- Joe Paton <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>