[nikonf4] Re: Shades of Green

  • From: Eric Welch <ericwelch@xxxxxx>
  • To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:20:23 -0800

Okay send me a photo that needs that kind of work. Make it a full image, but 
jpeg it so that it's less than 10 megs.

On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Koichi Mac wrote:

> 
>       The slide looks identical to the untouched JPG I sent.  So the sky is 
> kind of washed out.  
> 
>       If there is a way to combine same image scanned at different contrast / 
> brightness levels, I would like to know how.  That would be god-send 
> technique for my kind of photos which tends to have wide gap between bright 
> and dark areas, like ones I sent last night about Snake River.  
> 
> 
> Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP
> Lakewood, WA U.S.A.
> 2010 / 12 / 10                04:52 PST
> 
> On Dec 9, 2010, at 0617 , Eric Welch wrote:
> 
>> Look at the slide. What do the clouds look like? Do they have more detail? 
>> If so, reduce the contrast and scan it for the sky. Then scan it again for 
>> the foreground. Then use Photoshop to combine the two images into one. 
>> There's easy ways to do that with such an image. If you can scan both ways I 
>> can show you how to combine them.
>> 
>> If there is no more detail in the slide than we're seeing here, then you're 
>> out of luck. This is what split neutral density filters are for, and in the 
>> digital realm, HDR.
>> 
>> On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:34 PM, Koichi Mac wrote:
>> 
>>>     Well, I have to think how much of that "too much blue" is due to the 
>>> feature of Velvia film and lack of skylight filter.  Yeah, the loss of 
>>> cloud detail bothers me a little.  
>>> 
>>>     Let me see if I can find the original slide again and rescan……OK, here 
>>> it is.  This is untouched, at 1.0 default brightness setting.  Seems 
>>> slightly underexposed……by 1/3 stop?  The cloud does not seem all that much 
>>> better (included the original photos below).  So it means I can't do much 
>>> on the cloud.  Or, does it look right to you?  Do you think I tend to 
>>> over-brighten?  
>>> 
>>> <3x5 306.jpeg>
>>> 
>>>     Have been pretty busy scanning slides and editing iTunes music files in 
>>> the past week.  Just sprayed straight bleach to kill mildew in my bathroom 
>>> - halfway.  Didn't use respirator - now kinda hard to breathe. Cigarette 
>>> doesn't taste good to me at this moment.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2010, at 2036 , Eric Welch wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Too much blue in the first two images. They needed that skylight filter. 
>>>> :-D
>>>> 
>>>> The sky is also pretty blown out. Much better to drop the exposure since 
>>>> there's plenty of detail in the foreground. Back in the film days, this is 
>>>> the kind of photo the split gradient filters were for.
>>>> 
>>>> From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: November 30, 2010 8:11:45 PST
>>>> To: Nikon F4 <nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [nikonf4] Shades of Green
>>>> Reply-To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> 
>>>>    Not sure if I ever sent this out before.  But if I did, they were from 
>>>> PS-50 digital.  These are scanned from Nikon F3, AFS 28-70/2.8 Fuji 
>>>> Velvia.  Which one looks better?
>>>> 
>>>> This one no black point, white point adjustment.
>>> <3x5 306A.jpeg>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 0.02% black point, white point.  Looks brightened up but lost more cloud 
>>>> details.
>>> <3x5 306B BWP002.jpeg>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This one looks best among other same shots.
>>> <3x5 310.jpeg>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    Sent medium, 350 KB.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP
>>>> Lakewood, WA U.S.A.
>>>> 2010 / 11 / 30             20:12 PST
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> Most people make the mistake of thinking design is what it looks like. 
>> People think it’s this veneer — that the designers are handed this box and 
>> told, ‘Make it look good!’ That’s not what we think design is. It’s not just 
>> what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works. – Steve Jobs
>> 
> 
> 

Eric

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