[nikonf4] Re: Shades of Green
- From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx>
- To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:32:29 -0800
OK, I'll send it to you as soon as I decide which one.
Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP
Lakewood, WA U.S.A.
2010 / 12 / 10 06:33 PST
On Dec 10, 2010, at 0620 , Eric Welch wrote:
> Okay send me a photo that needs that kind of work. Make it a full image, but
> jpeg it so that it's less than 10 megs.
>
> On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Koichi Mac wrote:
>
>> The slide looks identical to the untouched JPG I sent. So the sky is
>> kind of washed out.
>>
>> If there is a way to combine same image scanned at different contrast /
>> brightness levels, I would like to know how. That would be god-send
>> technique for my kind of photos which tends to have wide gap between bright
>> and dark areas, like ones I sent last night about Snake River.
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2010, at 0617 , Eric Welch wrote:
>>
>>> Look at the slide. What do the clouds look like? Do they have more detail?
>>> If so, reduce the contrast and scan it for the sky. Then scan it again for
>>> the foreground. Then use Photoshop to combine the two images into one.
>>> There's easy ways to do that with such an image. If you can scan both ways
>>> I can show you how to combine them.
>>>
>>> If there is no more detail in the slide than we're seeing here, then you're
>>> out of luck. This is what split neutral density filters are for, and in the
>>> digital realm, HDR.
>>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:34 PM, Koichi Mac wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I have to think how much of that "too much blue" is due to the
>>>> feature of Velvia film and lack of skylight filter. Yeah, the loss of
>>>> cloud detail bothers me a little.
>>>>
>>>> Let me see if I can find the original slide again and rescan……OK, here
>>>> it is. This is untouched, at 1.0 default brightness setting. Seems
>>>> slightly underexposed……by 1/3 stop? The cloud does not seem all that much
>>>> better (included the original photos below). So it means I can't do much
>>>> on the cloud. Or, does it look right to you? Do you think I tend to
>>>> over-brighten?
>>>>
>>>> <3x5 306.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>> Have been pretty busy scanning slides and editing iTunes music files in
>>>> the past week. Just sprayed straight bleach to kill mildew in my bathroom
>>>> - halfway. Didn't use respirator - now kinda hard to breathe. Cigarette
>>>> doesn't taste good to me at this moment.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2010, at 2036 , Eric Welch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Too much blue in the first two images. They needed that skylight filter.
>>>>> :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> The sky is also pretty blown out. Much better to drop the exposure since
>>>>> there's plenty of detail in the foreground. Back in the film days, this
>>>>> is the kind of photo the split gradient filters were for.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Koichi Mac <nikonf3tmd4@xxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: November 30, 2010 8:11:45 PST
>>>>> To: Nikon F4 <nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [nikonf4] Shades of Green
>>>>> Reply-To: nikonf4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure if I ever sent this out before. But if I did, they were from
>>>>> PS-50 digital. These are scanned from Nikon F3, AFS 28-70/2.8 Fuji
>>>>> Velvia. Which one looks better?
>>>>>
>>>>> This one no black point, white point adjustment.
>>>> <3x5 306A.jpeg>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 0.02% black point, white point. Looks brightened up but lost more cloud
>>>>> details.
>>>> <3x5 306B BWP002.jpeg>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This one looks best among other same shots.
>>>> <3x5 310.jpeg>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent medium, 350 KB.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Koichi Yasutani - a.k.a. Steve + MP
>>>>> Lakewood, WA U.S.A.
>>>>> 2010 / 11 / 30 20:12 PST
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> Most people make the mistake of thinking design is what it looks like.
>>> People think it’s this veneer — that the designers are handed this box and
>>> told, ‘Make it look good!’ That’s not what we think design is. It’s not
>>> just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works. – Steve Jobs
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Eric
>
> "The theory of a free press is that truth will emerge from free discussion,
> not that it will be presented perfectly and instantly in any one account." –
> Walter Lippmann
>
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