Yeah, the wingless Fall Cankerworms are pretty crazy, came across a few last week. Try Fall Armyworm for your moth though, the shape and markings seem to be correct. Ali From: ncsc-moths-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ncsc-moths-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:50 PM To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Moth ID Ali, For some reason I didn't get any Alsophila last year , although I'm getting quite a few this year. Anyway, since I'm not that familiar with them , I checked out Female Cankerworm on Bugguide and found it to be a wingless moth . You should definitely check it out so you're familiar with it if you come across one. I would never have recognized it as a moth . Paul