[ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please

From: "J. Merrill Lynch" <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:00:03 -0500
You may already know this but if you do a search through Google Scholar, you
can find all kind of papers, most of which only allow you to read the
abstract (unless you pay a subscription fee), but it still is a good source
for esoteric and highly technical papers.

Merrill

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Harry Wilson <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Merrill,
>
> Good detective work! Thanks for your sleuthing. I had tried to do further
> research, but I must have avoided the technical papers. Looking once more I
> see that R. frustrana favors Loblolly Pine and Shortleaf Pine among its host
> plants. As you know, I have one Longleaf Pine, but the remainder, I believe,
> are Loblolly, so it makes sense to have the moth species here.
>
> Harry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "J. Merrill Lynch"
> Sent: Feb 20, 2011 8:10 PM
> To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please
>
>   Harry,
>
> Just out of curiosity, I did a little research into Rhyacionia to try and
> learn a little more about species distribution.  In some technical forestry
> papers online, I found several papers describing damage done by two species
> to loblolly pine plantations in the southeast:  R. rigidana and R.
> frustrana.  The type locality of frustrana is Virginia (not sure where the
> common name Nantucket pine tip moth came from).  I could find no mention of
> any other Rhyacionia in the southeastern coastal plain except for subtropica
> which occurs in Florida.  If somebody forced me to put a species name on
> your moth, even though it's not a perfect match, I think there is a pretty
> good chance it is frustrana ( and an appropriate name given your difficulty
> with it!).
>
> Merrill
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Harry Wilson 
> <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Moth-ers,
>>
>> I have decided that moths should be required to carry identification with
>> them. That way there will be some hope for me to maintain my sanity.
>>
>> Last night I took the attached photos, and many others, of a micro moth
>> that is giving me a headache. One problem is that my sheet was not anchored
>> as well as it should have been, so I had a constantly moving target. After
>> searching through MPG and BugGuide, I believe that the closest match is an
>> unlikely candidate, #2887.1,Rhyacionia duplana or Summer Shoot Moth/Elgin
>> Shoot Moth. It resembles Tom Murrays photos from Groton MA at
>> http://bugguide.net/node/view/382988 and
>> http://www.pbase.com/image/123416460. This is a European and Asian moth
>> that has been documented in the US only in MA, as far as I can tell. I have
>> included information on host plants and distribution to show why I discount
>> my tentative ID. I hope that someone may bring me back to my senses with a
>> better, more logical, ID.
>>
>> Host plants: Pinus sylvestris (Scots Pine), Pinus contorta var. latifolia
>> (Shore Pine, a common tree in western North America), Pinus thunbergii
>> (Japanese Black Pine, Japanese Pine, Black Pine – native to Japan and S.
>> Korea), Picea sitchensis (Sitka Spruce – from AK down coast to n. CA).
>> Distribution: Northern and Central Europe to Eastern Russia and Japan.
>> Also recorded from Korea, but Byun et al., 1998, have not found any
>> specimens.
>> In the UK, this species is represented by the subspecies Rhyacionia
>> duplana logaea , where it is also known as the Elgin shoot moth; in Japan
>> the subspecies Rhyacionia duplana simulata Heinrich occurs.
>>
>> Harry Wilson
>> Zebulon, NC
>>
>
>
>
> --
> J. Merrill Lynch
> Echo Valley Farm
> Watauga County, NC
> Elevation:  3,400 feet
>
>


-- 
J. Merrill Lynch
Echo Valley Farm
Watauga County, NC
Elevation:  3,400 feet
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- [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please
  - From: Harry Wilson
[ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please

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