[ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please

  • From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:33:15 -0800 (PST)

Last night I had something that appears to be from the same genus.  So far I 
haven't been able to find anything at MPG that fits, especially that red head.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p193/kjchilds/Moths%202011/IMG_0718.jpg

 Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County

http://www.finishflagfarms.com





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From: Harry Wilson <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 12:48:12 PM
Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please


Merrill, 
 
I feel a compulsion to identify my moths, I guess. Even without the  specific 
ID, it is a lifer and one more example of how frequently a small moth  on the 
sheet seems to be making a cameo appearance. 

 
Harry 
From: J. Merrill Lynch 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:12 PM
To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please
  Cool moth, Harry!  I don't think there is any doubt you have nailed  the 
genus 
and I agree it looks a lot like Tom Murray's photo.  However,  after looking at 
the specimen plates on MPG, there are a number of species in  that genus that 
look similar.  All seem to be pine specialists.  I  haven't looked too 
carefully 
but I bet there is a species that specializes on  southern pines.  I wouldn't 
knock myself out trying to pin down which one;  you did a great job getting it 
to genus!
 
Merrill


On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Harry Wilson <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Moth-ers,
>
>I have decided that moths should be    required to carry identification with 
>them. That way there will be some hope    for me to maintain my sanity.
>
>Last night I took the attached photos,    and many others, of a micro moth 
>that 
>is giving me a headache. One problem is    that my sheet was not anchored as 
>well as it should have been, so I had a    constantly moving target. After 
>searching through MPG and BugGuide, I believe    that the closest match is an 
>unlikely candidate, #2887.1,Rhyacionia duplana or    Summer Shoot Moth/Elgin 
>Shoot Moth. It resembles Tom Murrays photos from    Groton MA at 
>http://bugguide.net/node/view/382988 and http://www.pbase.com/image/123416460. 
>This is a European and    Asian moth that has been documented in the US only 
>in 
>MA, as far as I can    tell. I have included information on host plants and 
>distribution to show why    I discount my tentative ID. I hope that someone 
>may 
>bring me back to my senses    with a better, more logical, ID.
>
>Host plants: Pinus sylvestris (Scots    Pine), Pinus contorta var. latifolia 
>(Shore Pine, a common tree in western    North America), Pinus thunbergii 
>(Japanese Black Pine, Japanese Pine, Black    Pine – native to Japan and S. 
>Korea), Picea sitchensis (Sitka Spruce – from AK    down coast to n. CA).
>Distribution: Northern and Central Europe to Eastern    Russia and Japan. Also 
>recorded from Korea, but Byun et al., 1998, have not    found any specimens.
>In the UK, this species is represented by the    subspecies Rhyacionia duplana 
>logaea , where it is also known as the Elgin    shoot moth; in Japan the 
>subspecies Rhyacionia duplana simulata Heinrich    occurs.
>
>Harry Wilson
>Zebulon,  NC
>


-- 
J. Merrill  Lynch
Echo Valley Farm
Watauga County, NC
Elevation:  3,400  feet

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