[ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please

  • From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:25:59 -0800 (PST)

Rich Healy ID'd this as Rhyacionia busckana
 Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County

http://www.finishflagfarms.com





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From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 3:25:11 PM
Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please


Lots of pines here. If you look on Google Earth, most anything green is a pine 
because they took their aerial shots of the area during winter. 


 Ken Childs
Henderson, TN
Chester County

http://www.finishflagfarms.com





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From: J. Merrill Lynch <jmerrilllynch@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011  3:01:50 PM
Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please


I think you're absolutely right.  have you got pines around your place?
 
Merrill


On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:33 PM, kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Last night I had something that appears to be from the same genus.  So far I 
haven't been able to find anything at MPG that fits, especially that red head.
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>http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p193/kjchilds/Moths%202011/IMG_0718.jpg
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> Ken Childs
>Henderson, TN
>Chester County
>
>http://www.finishflagfarms.com
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 From: Harry Wilson <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>
>To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 12:48:12 PM 
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>Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please
> 
>
>
>Merrill, 
> 
>I feel a compulsion to identify my moths, I guess. Even without the specific 
>ID, 
>it is a lifer and one more example of how frequently a small moth on the sheet 
>seems to be making a cameo appearance. 
>
> 
>Harry 
>From: J. Merrill Lynch 
>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:12 PM
>To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: ID help, please
>  Cool moth, Harry!  I don't think there is any doubt you have nailed the 
> genus 
>and I agree it looks a lot like Tom Murray's photo.  However, after looking at 
>the specimen plates on MPG, there are a number of species in that genus that 
>look similar.  All seem to be pine specialists.  I haven't looked too 
>carefully 
>but I bet there is a species that specializes on southern pines.  I wouldn't 
>knock myself out trying to pin down which one; you did a great job getting it 
>to 
>genus!
> 
>Merrill
>
>
>On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Harry Wilson <harrywilson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
>
>Moth-ers,
>>
>>I have decided that moths should be required to carry identification with 
>>them. 
>>That way there will be some hope for me to maintain my sanity.
>>
>>Last night I took the attached photos, and many others, of a micro moth that 
>>is 
>>giving me a headache. One problem is that my sheet was not anchored as well 
>>as 
>>it should have been, so I had a constantly moving target. After searching 
>>through MPG and BugGuide, I believe that the closest match is an unlikely 
>>candidate, #2887.1,Rhyacionia duplana or Summer Shoot Moth/Elgin Shoot Moth. 
>>It 
>>resembles Tom Murrays photos from Groton MA at 
>>http://bugguide.net/node/view/382988 and 
>>http://www.pbase.com/image/123416460. 
>>This is a European and Asian moth that has been documented in the US only in 
>>MA, 
>>as far as I can tell. I have included information on host plants and 
>>distribution to show why I discount my tentative ID. I hope that someone may 
>>bring me back to my senses with a better, more logical,  ID.
>>
>>Host plants: Pinus sylvestris (Scots Pine), Pinus contorta var. latifolia 
>>(Shore 
>>Pine, a common tree in western North America), Pinus thunbergii (Japanese 
>>Black 
>>Pine, Japanese Pine, Black Pine – native to Japan and S. Korea), Picea 
>>sitchensis (Sitka Spruce – from AK down coast to n. CA).
>>Distribution: Northern and Central Europe to Eastern Russia and Japan. Also 
>>recorded from Korea, but Byun et al., 1998, have not found any specimens.
>>In the UK, this species is represented by the subspecies Rhyacionia duplana 
>>logaea , where it is also known as the Elgin shoot moth; in Japan the 
>>subspecies 
>>Rhyacionia duplana simulata Heinrich occurs.
>>
>>Harry Wilson
>>Zebulon, NC
>>
>
>
>-- 
>J. Merrill Lynch
>Echo Valley Farm
>Watauga County, NC
>Elevation:  3,400 feet
>
>


-- 
J. Merrill Lynch
Echo Valley Farm
Watauga County, NC
Elevation:  3,400 feet

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