[muglo] Re: start up problem
- From: Joseph Nolan <josephnolan1@xxxxxxx>
- To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:38:47 -0400
Martin, et. al.
Perhaps i was guilty of putting all my eggs in one basket. I
have never dealt with MD, only the "other" store in town that claims
to be all things to mac people. The average mark up on any product in
this store is 50-150%. Now as it has been attested to in the last two
postings, it is obvious that MD are owned by a bunch of altruistic
humanitarians that work virtually for free. My mistake. Thank you for
posting the free advice to answer the immediate question at hand.
However, if I need to speak to somebody and pay outlandish prices, I
will spend the gas money and speak to the REAL Apple geniuses at the
nearest Apple store.
Best wishes,
Joe
On 4-Jul-07, at 4:28 PM, Martin Albinger wrote:
> Perhaps to head of more than one thing: No one answered the obvious
> first question of where do I get Disk First Aid. Paul could (and
> likely should have answered because I know he has the knowledge) that
> Disk First Aid (DFA) is provided when installing Mac OS X or most
> system software going back to at least 8.1 if not earlier. It is
> currently found in the Applications: Utilities folder. Unfortunately
> it does not allow you to repair the boot volume only to verify and
> repair permissions so you would have to use the install disks to boot
> (not all of us have them) or boot from another OS X volume attached to
> the computer and then run DFA from there. Alternatively there is a
> much cheaper albeit scary way to do this. Restart the computer while
> holding down the apple key (see previous discussion on this topic in
> the MUGLO archives) and the S key (or Command-S if you prefer).
>
> You will end up in a pre-loading OS X mode - and it is all text! At
> some point the text will stop loading and you will get a root# prompt
> or a localhost# prompt. At that point you type in fsck -fy
>
> then press the return key {note these are the letters f, s, c, and k,
> a space, a hyphen, then the letters f and y fsck -fy} . This will
> check the disk on which OS X is installed and any problems will be
> reported and repaired (if possible). If there were any repairs it
> will
> say **** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***.
>
> If this happens type in fsck -fy a second time. If every thing is OK
> then it will say "Whatever your hard drive name is" appears to be OK.
>
> At that point type in the command exit at the # prompt and boot up
> into
> OS X will continue as normal. You may have to fsck -fy several times.
> I have had to use this on a number of occasions on different computers
> and have only had to do fsck -fy twice (the initial time and then a
> second time if repairs were made).
>
> This means you don't have to boot from a second disk.
>
> If at the end of this there are still issues there may be bigger
> problems than what DFA can address and purchasing another repair
> utility may be necessary. There are a number of different programs
> available, two of the more popular ones are Disk Warrior and Tech
> Tools
> Pro.
>
> [rant start]
> To respond to Joe - purchasing something locally allows you to go back
> to the retailer to get advice on how to use the product etc. not as
> easy on line. If I spend 2 hours with you to solve the problem during
> which time a customer(s) walks in and walks out I lose a potential
> sale. Perhaps the charge for buying the software from me includes
> some
> of this 'hidden' cost of doing business.
>
> If it's cheap you want go to the dollar store and get the Colgate (?)
> toothpaste for a dollar a tube - at least your teeth won't freeze! Or
> perhaps purchase that extra cheap pet food - your vet will love you
> for
> it too! Not so sure about your pet though. [rant end]
>
> Martin
>
> On Jul 4,2007, at 12:39 PM, Roy Hanson wrote:
>
>> in case it ever happens with my daughters G4, where do I get a
>> copy of
>> Disk First Aid & Warrior?
>> Roy Hanson
>>
>
> On Jul 4,2007, at 3:44 PM, Joseph Nolan wrote:
>
>> Gerhard,
>> Not to start a flame war, but we shouldn't promote them at
>> every opportunity either. If I can get the same exact product cheaper
>> online, I am not going to go run somewhere just because they are
>> local.
>> Joe
>>
>> On 4-Jul-07, at 3:41 PM, Gerhard Kuhn wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is that really a necessary comment? Seems to be more inflammatory
>>> than anything, if you needed to say it a private e-mail would have
>>> sufficed. These guys do support us and I don't see why we jab them
>>> at every opportunity.
>>>
>>> Gerhard
>>>
>>> P.S. Value has little to do with cost.
>
>
>
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