Hi Lee, ya, I learned a bit about OS 9 password protection from Eric's reply to you, on-list. It might be best for us to make this an on-list conversation, so that everyone can read and maybe contribute. So, I'll send the email that I'm writing now to you and also to the MUGLO list. At 9:43 PM -0500 3/6/05, Lee Dickey wrote: >Thank you VERY much for writing back. you asked how they are running 9 >and how is they are asked for passwords. Well there are two ways to run >9, as I understand it. > >One is to set the startup disk to be OSX, version 10.2.8 >Startup with that, and then, from inside 10.3, startup OS 9. >This works smoothly. No OS 10 user is asked for an OS 9 passoword. Understood. >The other way is specify the startup disk to be 9.2.2. Shut down OS X. >Restart the computer. > >This is where we are in trouble. Main user on os 9 is not the main user >on OS 10 (name change, there) It was changed from something like >"Jones Family" to "Mother Jones". Sadly the old password for the >"Family" has been forgotten. Mom never logged in, only the kids, and >they, of course know their passwords, but they do not have enough >privileges. Hmm, I see. I'm still a bit surprised to hear of some sort of "log-in" password for 9 - I know a bit about the "multiple user/keychain" thing that can be used for file security, etc, but I never heard anything about log-in security. Then again, I am the sole user of my Mac, so I never paid too much attention to this stuff. FWIW, I looked in Apple Support and found this discussion: <http://discusssearch.info.apple.com/webx?14@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@.68a72488/0> So, it looks like you might try trashing the pref file for Multiple Users. >At this point we have a dead end. But no, we can do this: >Put in a CD for OS X, reset startup to be OS X on the hard drive >and away we go again. Yep, but it's an OS 9 boot that you need, in order to do the firmware update, if necessary, right? >I am thinking that perhaps if I simply remove the file called "Login" >from the System Folder, I might bypass the nasty gatekeeper. Any >comments on this action? Sorry, I just don't know about that. I'd deal with the pref file I mentioned earlier, first. Meanwhile, I'm still a bit curious about the necessity for a firmware update. Do you know what the current firmware version is? Mary _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/