Hmm. Since they have an iMac G3 they have an OS 8, 8.5, or 9 startup disk. 1. They should place the FirmWare update in a place where they can find it on their hard drive. 2. Insert OS 8/9 installer CD into CD-ROM. 3. Restart computer whilst holding down the c key, or, select the CD from within the Startup Disk preferences pane. 4. Run FirmWare updater. If they want to disable the password in OS 9 they will have to go into their Extensions folder and disable the appropriate extensions/control panels or find the right preferences file and delete it. Unfortunately it's been so long since I've used OS 9 (and I never used the password feature since it's quite unstable) so I can't remember (off the top of my head) how to disable passwords. And, no passwords are not the same between OS 9 and X. OS 9's password protection was a complete *joke*. I could disable it with about two minutes of effort (most of that time spent waiting for the system to reboot ;). OS X's password protection can be circumvented but it's not quite as easy, especially if encrypted homes are used (I hope... I don't know if you can lose your encrypted home directory if you forget your password... I hope *so* because otherwise encrypted home is worthless... just pop in an OS X boot CD and you can reset the password). Eric. On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 17:44:11 -0500, Lee Dickey <Lee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I am having some trouble and need some help. > > I have some friends who want to upgrade their iMac from 10.2 to 10.3. > They have an iMac 400 (slot type) running 10.2.8. To make the upgrade > to 10.3, they need to install firmware 4.1.9. > The instructions are to startup from OS 9.2.2. They have this, > and they have used 9.2.2 to run some applications in the past. > However they have never started up from 9.2.2 since they moved > to OS 10. They have changed their passwords in OS 10, but when > trying to startup from 9.2.2, they are asked for a password which > is now long forgotten. OS9 apparently does not inherit password > changes that have been made in OS X ! > > Any other suggestions, please? > > Lee > > _________________________________________________ > > For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on > > http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html > > Our Archives can be viewed at > > //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo > > Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: > > http://muglo.on.ca/ > _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/