Over here in what used to be the free USA, our wood burning locomotives had a numerosity of different style "Diamond Stacks" to slow or stop burning cinders Inside the stacks and near the top, there was a cast iron deflector that directed the embers downward where they collected and also there was a heavy screen at the top of the stack. There was also the "Bear Trap" spark arrestor as is used on certain Durango and Silverton locomotives. The Bear Trap is an ugly thing with a screen set at an angle and a long outside pipe to hold the hopefully caught cinders. I don't know what is inside the thing, but am sure there is some sort of deflector. Steamers also had an angled screen in front of the flues and it deflected a lot of the stuff into the smokebox. These screens were still present in our coal burners. Our club does not require any arrestors because here in the humid South there is not much possibility of setting any of the greenery afire. Farther West, especially in California and other desert states, arrestors are required on all club steamers or so I have heard. On the full size narrow gauge D&S RR and I think Cumbres and Toltec Scenic RR, trains are frequently followed by some sort of fire suppression motor car in case a spark escapes the deflectors lands in dry grass or brush. The motor car carries water and chemicals as well as the old faithful rubber flapper on a handle. Here in Troy, our fire department has several of the flappers in case some nicotine fiend flips a cigarette into the highway median or shoulder which happens pretty regularly during the winter or prolonged dry spell.. If anyone wants to see a photo I made of a D&S loco with a bear trap, just ask me at fernj1@xxxxxxxxxxx and I will send a photo of one of the monsters as applied to inside frame Mikado # 473. Jesse I didnt know that. Regarding models, and on the subject of spark arresting, a few years ago this was a major topic, but.recently it has rarely been mentioned. I know that some clubs insist on spark arrestors, whilst others appear to have no such rule. What is the general view on this, and which are considered the best types of spark arrestors? Alan MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.