Barrie, I used "O" rings as the piston rod seal in my Filer and Stowell and they ha= ve lasted very well. One needs to polish the rod with a cloth wheel and Je= welers rouge or something similar to make sure it is slick as possible. Yo= u will need to make a wee boring tool to cut the internal grooves in the cy= linder heads. I made mine from a 3/32" Allen=AE wrench with a piece of tun= gsten carbide silver soldered crossways on the tip. Works perfectly it doe= s so I say GO FOR IT Mate! Jesse the Tennessee redneck and proud of it. I am currently refurbishing a 5" Duchess. The engine has seen quite a bit o= f use, having had several owners the last of whom dumped it in a barn! I am= currently working on the cylinders which have rusted quite badly. The piston rod glands are fairly conventional stuffing boxes but each gland= has four 10ba studs with a pair of locking nuts on each stud. This arrange= ment is very difficult to adjust on the outside cylinders and virtually imp= ossible on the inside cylinders (It is a four cylinder engine). I am contem= plating modifying the arrangement and replacing the stuffing boxes with O = rings. Similarly with the piston valve rods. Whilst I have used O rings wit= h considerable success on piston valve rods I have never tried them as a pi= ston rod seal.=20 Any thoughts gents? Barrie=20 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.