Hi All, Owing to slippery fingers my post about Silicone O Rings should have read " cannot take mechanical wear" Regards Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clif Walker" <clif.gwr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: [modeleng] Re: O rings > Hi All, > > I tend to use Viton O rings for steam and sliding joints, the only snag > being that untill I read Craig's e-mail I did not realise that there were > different types so perhaps I have been lucky. > Long before Martin Evans started specifing O rings for the steam pipe > joints at the front tube plate I had worked out that it was far easier to > make a compression joint using O rings than all the fun and games of > trying > to screw a bush onto the steam pipe from the regulator while at the same > time screwing the bush into the front tube plate and get it all steam > tight. > I also make compression joints for the steam and exhaust connections to > the > steam chests. > I have never used Silicone O rings for sliding joints,despite the fact > that > ME suppliers recommend them owing to the fact that the O ring > manufacturers > say that Silicone cannot mechanical wear. Any comment please Craig? > > Regards > > Clif > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Gluyas" <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:08 AM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: O rings > > >> As a former seal specialist for a valve manufacturer, i guess this is my >> area! >> >> O-rings are very suited to our uses, we just have to be careful what >> material to use. Silicone is about the best & most widely suitable >> for -15 >> to 200'C. Other materials vary, even to within blends. For example Viton >> A >> is not recommended for use with steam where as Viton B or Viton GF is. >> Viton is good for about the same temperatures as Silicone. >> >> Other seals such as EPDM and Nitrile are readily available, but are less >> tolerant to chemicals (Natural Rubber does not like Oils for example) >> >> An excellent compatibility website used in the industry is available here >> http://www.coleparmer.com/techinfo/ChemComp.asp >> >> >> Hope that helps! >> >> Craig >> >> >> >>> There is a discussion on a message board about the use of O rings in >>> model >>> steam engines. >>> Both the types and where they are, or are not, suitable, together with >>> the >>> advantages /disadvantages of them compared to other forms of seal. >>> >>> What opinions do members here have? >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> >>> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >>> >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >>> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the >>> subject >>> line. >>> >> >> >> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject >> line. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1799 - Release Date: 19/11/2008 > 08:58 > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1799 - Release Date: 19/11/2008 08:58 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.