Alan I recived this e-mail from Barrie today Hi Lee Well, I checked out my LBSCR book (it's Vol 3 of Locomotives of the LBSCR by DL Bradley), and it contains material on Robert Billinton's designs - 4-4-0s etc and later big tank engines (4-6-4's) but the one which Alan is after isn't in this volume. Probably is in Vol 2. These books were published in the early 1970's by the RCTS, and back then cost about GBP1.25! The book gives a lot of information and data on each class of engine, and has a good range of photographs for each class, but there are no line diagrams. Suggest that you tell Alan that if he wants to track down this particular source of info he could try Robert Humm and Co at Stamford Bridge, who has an excellent bookshop for railway literature, whose catalogue often offers out of print books such as the various RCTS volumes. cheers B MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.