There have been VERY few boiler explosions in our size. I heard of one failure in the 80's, which was due more to stupid handling of the engine than the boiler's fault. (Guys carried an engine in steam and managed to tilt it so the firebox was uncovered. ) From what I have been able to discover, the last time that a model boiler accident caused injury was 1928. An excellent record, but one that we shouldnt be complacent about. They CAN explode, and they do contain sufficient energy to cause harm to those nearby. Of course, there is a good chance that YOU may be the one closest to your engine. But, with a safe design, and all of those published in the magazines are checked to ensure they are, and reasonable construction followed by testing as laid down, they are safe in normal circumstances. The tests are essential, and shouldnt be skimped, but your club boiler inspectors will ensure it is done properly. From then on, the main thing is to ensure that the water level stays above the bottom nut. In fact, on full size, that was the prime task for the fireman, chucking coal on taking second place. The reason for not using brass in a boiler is that it can suffer de-zincification, which results in a sponge-like structure, which, naturally, then can fail very easily. Apart from that, accidents are very few. The only ones I have ever seen being due to couplings coming undone. Accidents involving injuries? Never seen any, although some years ago one IMLEC competitor did manage to tip his engine over and fall off the trolley and track. Alan Stepney http://www.alanstepney.info Model Engineering & steam engine information pages ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gmx22@xxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Accidents Thank you all for your help with my spinning question, yes it is harder than I thought as you all suggested. On the subject of accidents, I am building a simplex, never driven one, never lit a fire in one. yes I am new to this and would be glad of a training program of sorts. I can understand people that have been building / running locos for years been a little miffed at the thought of having to take a test but is it that dangerous?? Do boilers explode on a regular basis? I have just had a telling off for suggesting using brass for my inner dome, if i did the world would end or de railments happen tipping people off onto the floor. this is a topic close to you all by the amount of posts you are getting. Im alarmed do i need to join the dangerous sports society. Oh just a quick one anybody know where i can get pickling solution from in the uk? dont think reeves do it anymore, must be far to dangerous Keith MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.