why not use numbed commander? you can set up on e key commands up for any vo command you wish. Gabe Vega - Sent from my iPhone (623) 565-9357 On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:19 AM, ashley <ash.cox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yes, I agree. THey have done a great job of making web browsing accessible. > The only part I don't like, is having to hold down so many keys to get things > done. I mean... holding down control, option, command, H just to move to the > next heading, in my opinion, is overkill. Yes, you have the roter, but then > you have to keep changing the roter settings. I think if they did the > following things: > -ability to use up/down arrow keys to navigate the page, like most other > screenreaders > -single letter navigation (H and shift H for headings, g and shift G for > graphics, v and shift V for visited links, T and shift T for tables, etc) > -make the web pages read more like a text file (this would make selecting and > browsing so much easier) > web browsing on the mac would be so much easier and a hole lot more enjoyable. > > I'm not just trying to have a rant, but, at the moment, I spend more of my > web browsing time on the mac trying to remember how many keys do what then I > do, say, checking my youtube subscription uploads. > > ash > > > Website: > > http://www.ashleycox.co.uk > Twitter: > http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 > Blog160: > http://www.blog160.com > > > On 23/02/2011 11:57, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> I agree, >> >> In leopard, I avoided the web at all costs. windows had a faster, more >> developed web browsing experience. That all changed with snow leopard. It >> caught up, and past windows in certain regards to the point where I felt >> like windows was no longer needed for the task. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >> >>> Ash, >>> >>> With the item chooser, link chooser quick nav and so on, Safari works >>> better than anything I have ever used. >>> Keith Reedy >>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:03 PM, ashley wrote: >>> >>>> I use quick nav most of the time; it does improve the experience. >>>> ash >>>> >>>> Website: >>>> http://www.ashleycox.co.uk >>>> Twitter: >>>> http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 >>>> Blog160: >>>> http://www.blog160.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On 22/02/2011 18:06, Gabe Vega wrote: >>>>> Turn quick nav on? >>>>> >>>>> Gabe Vega - Sent from my iPhone >>>>> (623) 565-9357 >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:43 AM, ashley<ash.cox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> While I've been a mac user for nearly 2 years now, One of th ethings >>>>>> I've never been very good at is web browsing. To be honest, I found web >>>>>> browsing on the mac almost annoying, probably because i'm used to using >>>>>> a windows screenreader, and using just the arrow keys to navigate. One >>>>>> of the things in VO that I don't like is constantly having to hold down >>>>>> multiple keys, and using the ctrl option lock is just plain annoying. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, ranting aside, does anybody have any tips, no of any guides, or >>>>>> any useful resources, for using voiceover with safari (or any html >>>>>> content area for that matter)? >>>>>> >>>>>> I love the way voiceover does everything else, but the web experience >>>>>> needs to be better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any suggestions! >>>>>> Ash >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Website: >>>>>> http://www.ashleycox.co.uk >>>>>> Twitter: >>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 >>>>>> Blog160: >>>>>> http://www.blog160.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>>> >>>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>>> >>>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>>> >>>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface >> at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >