Yes, I agree. THey have done a great job of making web browsing accessible. The only part I don't like, is having to hold down so many keys to get things done. I mean... holding down control, option, command, H just to move to the next heading, in my opinion, is overkill. Yes, you have the roter, but then you have to keep changing the roter settings. I think if they did the following things: -ability to use up/down arrow keys to navigate the page, like most other screenreaders -single letter navigation (H and shift H for headings, g and shift G for graphics, v and shift V for visited links, T and shift T for tables, etc) -make the web pages read more like a text file (this would make selecting and browsing so much easier) web browsing on the mac would be so much easier and a hole lot more enjoyable.
I'm not just trying to have a rant, but, at the moment, I spend more of my web browsing time on the mac trying to remember how many keys do what then I do, say, checking my youtube subscription uploads.
ash Website: http://www.ashleycox.co.uk Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 Blog160: http://www.blog160.com On 23/02/2011 11:57, Ricardo Walker wrote:
I agree, In leopard, I avoided the web at all costs. windows had a faster, more developed web browsing experience. That all changed with snow leopard. It caught up, and past windows in certain regards to the point where I felt like windows was no longer needed for the task. Ricardo Walker rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:Ash, With the item chooser, link chooser quick nav and so on, Safari works better than anything I have ever used. Keith Reedy keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:03 PM, ashley wrote:I use quick nav most of the time; it does improve the experience. ash Website: http://www.ashleycox.co.uk Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 Blog160: http://www.blog160.com On 22/02/2011 18:06, Gabe Vega wrote:Turn quick nav on? Gabe Vega - Sent from my iPhone (623) 565-9357 On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:43 AM, ashley<ash.cox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi all, While I've been a mac user for nearly 2 years now, One of th ethings I've never been very good at is web browsing. To be honest, I found web browsing on the mac almost annoying, probably because i'm used to using a windows screenreader, and using just the arrow keys to navigate. One of the things in VO that I don't like is constantly having to hold down multiple keys, and using the ctrl option lock is just plain annoying. However, ranting aside, does anybody have any tips, no of any guides, or any useful resources, for using voiceover with safari (or any html content area for that matter)? I love the way voiceover does everything else, but the web experience needs to be better. Thanks for any suggestions! Ash -- Website: http://www.ashleycox.co.uk Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ashleycox2 Blog160: http://www.blog160.comClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverUsers can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover