Hi all. OK, I was able to change the position of my Option and Command keys on my Windows Keyboard in the Mac Preferences Keyboard and Mouse section. Thank you David P and others. I still can't get the Mac to recognize the Applications key as a key, so I don't have the Option key on the right hand side of the keyboard, but this is progress anyway. Thanks for all your help. Neal -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 5:03 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with the Mac Hi, my keyboard has extra controls above the function keys and two of them operate the volume. But, alas, there is no eject key. I can work around this, however. I'm going to try to map the keyboard a bit later and see if I can change the position of the command and option keys so they are close together as they are on the Mac keyboard. Neal -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richie Gardenhire Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:26 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with the Mac I use a standard Windows keyboard all the time on one of my machines. The only thing I can't do with it is Volume Up or Down, and Eject; otherwise, all other functions work well. Richie Gardenhire, anchorage, Alaska. On Apr 27, 2008, at 9:13 AM, vashaun jones wrote: > You can get a refurbish one from Apple. I forget the cost because I > wanted the new one. > On Apr 27, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Neal Ewers wrote: > >> Ah, now that would solve the problem, wouldn't it? When I talked >> with my Mac store here in town, they only had the flat ones, but I >> will do some research. That way, I don't have to keep swapping my >> keyboard back and forth between my Mac and my Windows Lap-top >> computer. >> >> Thanks, David. >> >> Neal >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David >> Poehlman >> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:00 PM >> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with >> the Mac >> >> hmm, the new one is flat but the older ones that are plastic are >> stepped. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:54 PM >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with >> the Mac >> >> >> Hi David. Thanks for this. I'll try it. But I have one question. >> When you talk about Mac wired keyboards, what do you mean. I already >> have a USB Mac keyboard, but it is the lap-top style with all the >> keys flat and I wanted to have my keys stepped as they are on many >> Windows 101 key keyboards. Is there some other kind of Wired Mac >> keyboard that you were speaking of? >> Thanks. >> >> Neal >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David >> Poehlman >> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:31 AM >> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with >> the Mac >> >> Neil, >> >> In system prefs, keyboard and mouse, there is a keyboard shortcuts >> tab and there is where you can change your "modifiers". I have not >> done this and do not know if it applies to windows keyboards but that >> would be where to do it. >> >> On the other hand, if you can get hold of a former or even current >> mac wired keyboard, you could have the best of both worlds. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:36 PM >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Using a Standard Windows Keyboard with the >> Mac >> >> >> Hi all, Today I substituted the keyboard I was given for the Mac with >> a USB standard Windows keyboard. I was asked to press certain keys >> on the keyboard and the Mac politely recognized the Windows keyboard. >> It assigned the Command key to the Windows key, (the key right of the >> control key on the left). Because of some hand problems I am having, >> I would like the VoiceOver keys to be close together like they are on >> the Mac without the Command key being in the middle. On the right >> side of the keyboard, it did not assign the Applications key to >> anything, so I can only use the VoiceOver modifier keys on the left. >> So, here is the question. >> >> Is there any way to remap these keys on the Mac? >> >> Thanks for your help. By the way, I like this keyboard because it is >> more like a desktop keyboard with stair steps between the rows of >> keys rather than being flat like a laptop keyboard. I just make more >> mistakes on the flat keyboard. I can certainly live with what I >> have, but first, I wanted to make sure I had to. >> >> Neal >> >> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>> below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>> below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>> below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >>> below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link >> below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the >> Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >