[macvoiceover] Re: Mac Newbie Questions: 1 Mail/was:RE: Re: Introduction
- From: "Chris Hofstader" <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:40:05 -0500
Hi,
Thanks for the help. I'm still stuck on a few Mail issues especially:
JS: There's a couple things you can do here. One is to have mail thread
your messages, I find this an unbelievable help. From the view menu,
check the organize by thread option. When on a thread, you can press
right arrow to expand it and left arrow to collapse it. This makes the
table much smaller if you have a lot of threads. The way to move
through a table quickly, I find, is to hold the VO up or VO down
combination. It scrolls very quickly, it's not like holding keys down
cdh: I have the messages organized by thread and the title bar seems to
indicate that I have one new message in my Inbox. When I go to the Messages
table, though, it seems to be blank. I looked in Trash and the thread
wasn't there either. Did I somehow cloak a partially read thread? If so,
how did I do so?
cdh: Is there a restore to default UI in Mail anywhere that won't kill my
account information but would put everything back where it was so I can
start breaking it all over again?
cdh
Happy Hacking,
cdh
Chris Hofstader
email: cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Blog: http://www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com
Skype: BlindChristian
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[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Schmude
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:53 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Mac Newbie Questions: 1 Mail/was:RE: Re:
Introduction
Hi
My responses are under your questions.
On Dec 10, 2008, at 08:28, Chris Hofstader wrote:
> Mail:
>
> 1. How does one turn off the thing Outlook on Windows calls the
> "preview
> pane," as when I review new messages in the message table, they get
> marked
> as read and moved to the Trash folder. I like to move around in the
> table
> to decide what I care to read in what order (if Fruchterman or
> Vanderheiden
> writes, I read immediately; if a friend is looking for lunch, I may
> wait).
> So, how do I keep these messages from being marked as read just
> because they
> appeared in the preview panel for a couple of seconds, how do I turn
> the
> preview panel off altogether and how can I keep read messages in my
> Inbox so
> I can return to them later?
>
Make sure you are in the inbox window. Navigate with the voiceover
cursor down to where the Preview pain is, it will say "message content
scroll area," or possibly "html content." Now, navigate to the left
until you here "horizontal splitter." Press ctrl+option+command+f5 to
route your mouse to this splitter, then do a double-click (ctrl+option
+shift+space twice). This will turn off the preview pain. This is one
of those areas on the Macintosh that is different in coming from
Windows. Doubleclicking on the splitter between one area and another
usually hides the area under the splitter, this is standard Mac
behavior but pretty much nonexistent on Windows.
> 2. How does one navigate up and down through the Message table
> quickly? I
> often have hundreds of messages but PAGE-UP and PAGE-DOWN, HOME and
> END do
> not seem to have any effect in tables in general and the Messages
> table
> specifically.
There's a couple things you can do here. One is to have mail thread
your messages, I find this an unbelievable help. From the view menu,
check the organize by thread option. When on a thread, you can press
right arrow to expand it and left arrow to collapse it. This makes the
table much smaller if you have a lot of threads. The way to move
through a table quickly, I find, is to hold the VO up or VO down
combination. It scrolls very quickly, it's not like holding keys down
on Windows where you get a lot of repeated speech you can't control.
You're correct about page up/page down not working the way they do in
Windows, these keys are looked at differently from a Mac perspective,
and don't behave at all like they do on other systems.
I'm not sure about importing Outlook contacts, and I don't use voice
recognition at all. HOpefully someone else knows these answers.
hth
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