Oh, interesting. Good to know. I had been looking at the Mac Book Pro, but then when I heard about the drive, I thought that might be worth some extra $$. Thanks for the warning. Donna > -----Original Message----- > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:12 PM > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Hello, and newbie seeking manuals > > not sure what you mean by a virtual drive but if it is what I think, > the price is too high for what you get with an ssd. it also drains > the battery much more so for some reason than does a regular drive. > Your best bet for speed is the 13 inch macbook pro if you like small > and fast. > > On Jun 17, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi David, Keith, and Marcy, > > Thanks to all of you for this helpful info. I have downloaded the > manual, > and been to the Icanworkthis.com site. It's great to have all these > wonderful resources. I'm sure that at some point I'll be one of those > annoying ex-Windows users who goes on a rant, but hopefully with all > these > tools, I can keep that down to a minimum. *smile* > > Very cool about the $10 upgrade. It's really nice to know that if I > buy my > Mack within the next couple of weeks, I won't be looking at shelling > out > another $100 in 2 months. > > Yeah, Marcy, the MacBook is the one for me! Haven't quite figured out > the > configuration yet, but I like speed, so am thinking about getting it > with > the virtual drive. > Cheers, > Donna > > -----Original Message----- > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman > > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:35 PM > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Hello, and newbie seeking manuals > > > > Hi Donna, > > > > Apple published yesterday that a mac purchased (approved) for > purchase > > by apple would be elegible for snow leopard upgrade for $10.00. > > > > as for the getting started guide, you will find it here: > > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html > > welcome back and enjoy your mac. > > On Jun 17, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I was on this list about a year ago, but have finally decided to take > > the plunge and get a Mac. I'm looking at the Iphone 3gs, so this > > seemed like a good time to switch my computer over as well. I have a > > couple of questions. > > > > First, I followed the instructions in the message below, but the site > > seems to have changed. Where do I need to go to download the newest > > Getting Started manual? > > > > Second, if I purchase my Mac this summer, will I be eligible for the > > Snow-Leopard upgrade due out in September? > > > > Thanks in advance for all your help. It's good to be back on the > > list, and I'm looking forward to new adventures with a Mac! > > Cheers, > > Donna > > > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 PM > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: arrow keys on Mac? > > > > You need to go to > > > > http://www.apple.com/accessibility > > Click on seeing. > > > > Then go down to the voice over getting started manual. They have it > > either in pdf format, or in mp3 format. Not trying to steer myself > > away from helping you. It's just if you do not know the fundimentals > > like what the vo keys are even, it's gonna be very difficult trying > to > > explains things. To interact with an item, asswuming it is a type > > item that you can interact with like a table, a list, an outline, > etc. > > you need to do vo+shift+down arrow to interact, then vo shift up > arrow > > to stop interacting. remember by vo, also known as vo keys, you hold > > down control and option. > > > > Chris. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Donna Goodin > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:22 AM > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: arrow keys on Mac? > > > > Thanks, Chris. No I wasn't, I didn't know any of this. So, then to > > interact with an item, do I press enter, or use the mousepad? > > TIA, > > Donna > > > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover- > > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:55 AM > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: arrow keys on Mac? > > > > Donna, > > > > For one, were you using the voice over keys with the arrow keys? You > > need to hit control+option while moving around with the arrow keys. > > > > Then do vo+space, or in other words control+option+space to select an > > item. > > > > Chris. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Donna Goodin > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:51 AM > > Subject: [macvoiceover] arrow keys on Mac? > > > > Hello all, > > > > This is Donna Goodin, I was on the list a few weeks back. > > > > I had a chance to go into an Apple store on Friday, and played around > > a bit with a Mac. One thing I noticed was that the arrow keys don't > > seem to do anything, i.e. you can't use them to navigate around the > > screen. Is this normal? If yes, how do you navigate the screen? > > Using Tab kind of worked, but it didn't seem to get you everywhere on > > the screen. I did play around a bit with trying to use the mouse > pad, > > it was OK, but not very precise. If the arrow keys are supposed to > > work, what should I have done to enable them? > > TIA, > > Donna > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.76/2183 - Release Date: > > 06/17/09 05:53:00 > > > > > >> > >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > >> > >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > > below. > >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > >> > >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > >> > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.76/2183 - Release Date: > > 06/17/09 05:53:00 > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > below. > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > below. > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.76/2183 - Release Date: > 06/17/09 05:53:00 > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >