[macvoiceover] Re: Formatting documents?

  • From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <cgilland1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:00:18 -0400

Why do all that, when Mail has a news reaqder built right in.

Just go in your file menu, and you'll find it. I think it's under the new menu. If it's not it's just in the main file menu. Sorry, I can't look right this second. In then just appears as a mailbox in your mailboxes area when you interact with it. Then you just vo over to the messages table, and all the posts will be in there just as if it was an e-mail, and you can read them like you would a standard e-mail msg.

Very? very! easy.

I really don't see what such the hife is about EMacs. It's great, but not for newbies who're just starting out and know nothing about conf files and setting all that stuff up, nor how to compile things like this from source. And don't tell me it's not hard.

No, maybe not for you, nor for I, but we're both somewhat advanced. For an average user, that's most likely gonna go over their head, documentation or not. Plus why go through all that when you already have the rss reader right at your fingertips. That seems somewhat counterproeductive if you want my opinion.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:34 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Formatting documents?


There is html which can be used by those who study the language.  For
bullets, those are cextended characters.  I used to know the number for
that too but didn't use it and didn't write that down so lost it.  I can
find out and be back with that info a little later this week.
For people who are looking for a free newsreader for their mac and have
an intel version of mac, the aqua version of emacs is the package to
download.  You'll need to learn to do some configuration but you start
the newsreader up like:
emacs -f gnus <enter>
gnus is built into that version of emacs.  Adding /etc/nntpserver to
your system containing a line with your news server's address on it
points gnus at your news server.  Then it's a matter of getting
.newsauthinfo set up properly.

On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Dean Wilcox wrote:

Same comments as below really. I can use Nisus, Pages and Text Edit but formatting documents in terms of bulleted lists, heading levels, tables etc feels like something everyone knows but won't share. I do now have Office 2010 for Windows which I have installed under Fusion as unless someone can give some great tips word processing on the Mac often has as much use to me as a fancy notepad under windows. I am unable to read tables under Open Office, Nisus Writer and Pages as they show up as just imbedded and took to copying the document into a new mail message as it displays in a readable format.

Sounds like any help would be appreciated by many!


On 10 Apr 2011, at 17:50, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> This is something I too have wondered. I do have the most recent > version of IWorks, but I'll admit I've not really dived into it very > heavily. I sort of know how to menipulate text and such on the mac, > but it's still a little out of my comfort zone, eing I've coming from a > Windows background. So, I am just curious if there are any good > resources out there that might help me with learning to edit/proof read > and format files.
>
> Any and all help or resources text or audio based would be very much > welcomed.
>
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Solowoniuk" > <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 11:28 AM
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Formatting documents?
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been on vacation mode on this list since the end of January. I > spent the month of February at Leader Dogs in Rochester Michigan > training with my guide dog, Joey. I've been a cane user for 26 years > now, and decided to see if a guide dog might enhance my life... don't > ask how it's going! LOL
>
> I am club secretary for the Toastmaster club I belong to. As such, I > need to take meeting minutes. I've been using my laptop with Windows 7 > to do this, but am finding Windows slow and sluggish surprise, > surprise! LOL
>
> I want to use my Mac to do the minutes, but so far, am not able to > figure out a way to get font, alignment and style information using VO. > I'm having a bit of success using Pages, but, is there a way to get VO > to read the font size, alignment, i.e. distance from left margin, and, > style information, i.e. heading 1, heading 2, etc.?
>
> I've tried Pages, Open Office, Nissus Writer, and Text Edit, but can't > find a way to gather this pertinent information.
>
> What are you folks using for word processing? How are you handling > document formatting?
>
> Thanks for any and all help!
>
> Best,
>
> Russell>
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