you can turn off 8 dot braille in vo utility in the braille pane. As for the characters, if it's a .brf file, it's hard coded and not an actual text edit issue. even if you use the file in terminal you'll still see the braille lf return characters. More and less work nicely in terminal btw incase you've not used it. On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahomiak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Can anybody tell me the best way to read a braille file on the Mac. An agency did a book for me; they are sending me the embossed copy but they already emailed the braille file. I'm trying to read it with my refreshabraille in text edit and i have two problems. 1. The minor problem is of course the extra dots 7 and 8; I can deal with this but it would be nice not to have those dots. 2. My big problem is that text edit is showing "return" at the end of each line and these are showing up on the braille display looking like braille "mj" for each return. Am I going to have to edit this file or run it through some kind of filter to have a decent reading experience or should I be reading in something other than text edit? Thanks for any help. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Jonnie Appleseed with his Hands-On Technologeye(s) touching the internet Reducing technologys' disabilities one byte at a time ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx