David writes: >>> Robert asks, What is a number? and I answer, numbers are a way to keep track of how many items we have. Originally for counting it turned out they could also be used for measuring how much we have and for dividing what we have into fractions. Later still, numbers were used for sequencing and coding. Now they are used to represent information. And I think I should be pedantic and say there is a difference between a number which is an abstract tally and a numeral which is the notational sign that represents it. >>> As a tourist in the land of numerals, I take it , then, that numbers are the deep structure of specific numeric utterances ("numerals"), and that we may deduce numbers from numerals, but that numerals rely on numbers for concrete articulation? Are numerals then dependent on numbers for their being? phatic ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html