In a message dated 9/15/2005 11:01:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: The critical, and therefore negative, quality of the doubting self appears to us as an attack on our faith, which can alone keep us whole. When the unfaithful self is projected onto external objects, the aggression we attribute to it becomes their aggression directed at us, their desire to destroy our faith. We must now mobilize aggression to protect ourselves against the infidel, notwithstanding the fact that the threat he poses is the threat of connection with our own split off and disavowed faithless selves. ..." Utter nonsense! How can there be faith without either the critical or doubt? And the move from 'projected' to 'split off and disavowed' is a howler. I marvel that there are people who still take this psychoanalysis nonsense seriously. Hey! I don't necessarily take (that) psychoanalysis nonsense seriously, but there are aspects of psychoanalysis which does have some merit. I do agree that what was written was poorly written. I ended up re-writing it as I was reading it so it probably made a bit more sense to me. I could try to translate <g> but if you are unfamiliar with the 'kick the dog syndrome', it would not make much sense unless THAT analogy was explained. and, after working hard *not* to kick the dog (who has made me cranky--rather, his behavior has and not any projection of my day onto him--I did do some inside 'work' to make sure of that before allowing myself the gift of being cranky...), the analogy has been in my mind. 'Course, I'm often thinking that Others On Our List are merely projections of various aspects of our personalities (and some of which aspects are difficult to accept so we get cross [not cranky] and that *could* lead to aggression if we didn't have other aspects of our personality (like Judy and Robert Paul) to be our Voice of Reason aspects of our personality. Now, I better go check on other aspects of my inner health and well-being before responding to one of Mike's posts about me and illegal stuff [cause he misunderstood me--probably projecting all sorts of things onto me--probably cause he felt cranky, too. Except I don't think he has a dog...], Marlena in Missouri