Take Julien Sorel. He tries > to kill someone, then allows himself to be arrested, makes no effort to > defend himself, try to escape or agree to a lighter sentence than > death. I don't care to know what's going on his head so much as I want > to know how this behavior is viewed by his fellow countrymen. How do > _they_ explain his behavior? Do they approve? I'm not sure quite how you're going to link the literary depiction and external cultural disapproval -- OK, I'm not quite sure what the question is. Are you asking whether if this happened "in real life", French people would approve (etc.)? It seems you think you can't simply infer that from literary depiction, yet literature is (presumably) inextricably linked to "real world" culture (and it's literature you want to focus on here). In Gide's _Les Caves > du Vatican_ Lafcadio commits a murder, an 'acte gratuit', and suffers no > consequences at all. there's an Agatha Christie (I hope she's allowed!) where Poirot lets the murderer walk free; it was a crime passionel. But "suffers no consequences" is totally wrong, though that isn't why Poirot shows "mercy" -- it's because of the pre-crime suffering. So, how do we define "no consequences"? I'm a bit fuzzy at the moment, I need to think a bit more about all this. Meanwhile http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/comment/0,,2062600,00.html also (afterthought) Ruth Rendell may have a Ripley Judy Evans, Cardiff ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html