[lit-ideas] Re: Sunday waffle...

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 17:27:56 -0400

> [Original Message]
> From: Ursula Stange <Ursula@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 6/4/2005 1:28:31 PM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Sunday waffle...
>
> Andy Amago wrote:
>
> How do you describe
> a society that says it's good he died at 24 because now we can worship his
> eternal youth.  Or the fact that Porsche sales went up after he was killed
> in one.  Not down, but up.  And that's just one tiny example of values
that
> are twisted beyond belief, then coveted.  Explain that to me without using
> the word stupid.  
>
> US:   It's called love, stupid.  (Sorry, Andy, just playing with the 
> words -- nothing personal meant.) 


A.A. I love it.  



 It's called yearning and 
> identification.  If women bought the Porsches, they wanted to feel what 
> it felt like to ride in one.  If men bought them, they wanted to impress 
> the girls who wanted to feel what it felt like to ride in one.  Thus the 
> world turns.


A.A.  Yearning and identification implies what?  An unsatisfying reality? 
Why not change reality to make it more satisfying?  On the other hand,
maybe I'll give yearning a shot and let you know how it feels.  Let's see,
who's been killed recently whose life I can vicariously live?  Suggestions
would be appreciated.  Just wondering, after the men/girls bought/rode in
the Porsches, were they fulfilled?  Or did they then move on to something
more thrilling?  



>
> Alternative answer:  it's called mythology.   We want to ride in a 
> Porsche because then we partake of the magic.  The story of the young 
> hero who chooses a different path is a powerful one.  (And Christ 
> himself couldn't have held an audience if he'd gotten old.)   The story 
> of Christ is instructive because we see that many are called but few 
> have to answer.  The fact that he turned the other cheek and did his 
> father's bidding means that we don't have to.  His doing it is enough.  
> We just have to point and say, "yeah, like him" and go our merry way.   
> So James Dean died for all of us and we can grow old and fat and lazy 
> and greedy, all the while saying, "yeah, like him...."  And if we're 
> riding a Porsche while we say it, so much the better.



A.A.  Mythology is great except that it's real people we're talking about. 
I wonder how James Dean feels about it.  How would you like to be loved for
the myth you could have generated by having died at 24?  I guess it's like
wearing a fur coat.  The animal is dead anyway.  James Dean is dead. 
Nobody killed him.  Why not turn him into a myth?  Except that it's our own
selves we're rejecting in embracing the myth.  Reject ourselves, celebrate
a Porsche.  Maybe it is love stupid.  BTW, by saying Christ turned the
other cheek so we don't have to fits right in with our war genes.   


Andy 



> Ursula
> Porscheless in North Bay
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