[lit-ideas] Re: One of the better fatwa's
- From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 21:55:34 +0100
So
1. it seems one Muslim did indeed post this on a bulletin board, or send it in
a letter, re Spencer, in or before 2005 (sorry I thought that was a ranting
invention
of yours), *on or before 2005*.
"May Allah rip out his spine from his back and split his brains in two,
and then put them both back, and then do it over and over"
2. But there has been no fatwa against Spencer. I'll say that again. There
has been
no fatwa against Spencer.
3. *In 2007*, CAIR wrote a lawyer's letter to YAF (see my previous posts), *a
fortiori*,
the 'may Allah...' is nothing to do with that
4. There is no lawsuit. Mike, there is no lawsuit.
Lawrence, you are lying or you have all this totally wrong. Even your own
usual sources --
lgf, jihadwatch, nro, whatshername -- lend no support to your story.
From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: One of the better fatwa's
Date: 08 August 2007 21:30
LH:
>>If I have offended your Leftist sympathies for the Jihadists and Islamists,
>>feel free to send me your fatwa.
No, you haven't offended my leftist sympathies for anyone or anything, I was
just curious as to why you sent the post. Was it just another rant against
Islamists? That's what I assumed at first, but then you did quote from someone
as if that were evidence of something. -- I couldn't figure out what the
something is. I've never heard of Spencer so I can't comment on whether or not
I think the lawsuit is justified or not. The titles of his books suggest that
he is an intolerant bigot, but one can't go by that, perhaps he was being
ironic. If your motive was to get a good laugh at the idiot who spoke of
ripping Spencer's spine, etc, well, you know, we have Rush Limbaugh and Bill
O'Reilly and Ann Coulter, they have their idiots as well. Trash talking is the
solace of the impotent. I pay it no mind.
Mike Geary
Memphis
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: One of the better fatwa's
Mike
Well, the point I thought was obvious, namely that the Jihadists aren't able
to make the logical connection; they can't think logically -- or they don't
give a rat's ass about logic. The offense (according to the Islamists) was
that Spencer argued that Islam isn't tolerant, and isn't a religion of peace.
The Islamists responded by the fatwa ""May Allah rip out his spine from his
back and split his brains in two, and then put them both back, and then do it
over and over" which demonstrates Spencer's point. Such a Fatwa is neither
tolerant (they don't want Spencer to write any more such books) and isn't
peaceful. I find this amusing. My point is that it is funny. This is one of
the funnier sequences moving from the offense (Spencer's books and articles) to
the response (which proves the point of Spencer's books and articles).
Lawrence
------------Original Message------------
From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, Aug-8-2007 12:14 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: One of the better fatwa's
What's your point, Lawrence?
Mike Geary
Memphis
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: Lit-Ideas
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:31 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] One of the better fatwa's
One of the most active anti-Islamists I've run across is Robert Spencer.
He wrote such books as The Myth of Islamic Tolerance: How Islamic Law Treats
Non-Muslims, Religion of Peace?; Why Christianity is and Islam isn't, The
Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), and The Truth about
Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion.
Anyway, the Islamists have had enough of him. They've filed a lawsuit
against him: "A powerful Washington, D.C. law firm told YAF that Robert was,
in essence, a hate-filled liar and that CAIR had ordered the law firm "to purse
every available and appropriate legal remedy to redress any false and
defamatory statements that made" at the conference." [sic]
And I suppose to distance themselves from the hate-filled Spencer, they've
issued a fatwa: "May Allah rip out his spine from his back and split his
brains in two, and then put them both back, and then do it over and over."
You've got to love their thought processes: You say we aren't peaceful and
tolerant? You can't get away with that: May Allay rip out your spine from your
back and split your brains in two, and then put them back, and then do it over
and over. You've got to love it.
Lawrence
ps: Where did I get this information? I was sent a letter asking me to
contribute to Spencer's legal defense fund. It was in that letter.
the idiot who spoke of ripping Spencer's spine
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Geary
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:30 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: One of the better fatwa's
LH:
>>If I have offended your Leftist sympathies for the Jihadists and Islamists,
feel free to send me your fatwa.
No, you haven't offended my leftist sympathies for anyone or anything, I was
just curious as to why you sent the post. Was it just another rant against
Islamists? That's what I assumed at first, but then you did quote from someone
as if that were evidence of something. -- I couldn't figure out what the
something is. I've never heard of Spencer so I can't comment on whether or not
I think the lawsuit is justified or not. The titles of his books suggest that
he is an intolerant bigot, but one can't go by that, perhaps he was being
ironic. If your motive was to get a good laugh at the idiot who spoke of
ripping Spencer's spine, etc, well, you know, we have Rush Limbaugh and Bill
O'Reilly and Ann Coulter, they have their idiots as well. Trash talking is the
solace of the impotent. I pay it no mind.
Mike Geary
Memphis
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: One of the better fatwa's
Mike
Well, the point I thought was obvious, namely that the Jihadists aren't
able to make the logical connection; they can't think logically -- or they
don't give a rat's ass about logic. The offense (according to the Islamists)
was that Spencer argued that Islam isn't tolerant, and isn't a religion of
peace. The Islamists responded by the fatwa ""May Allah rip out his spine from
his back and split his brains in two, and then put them both back, and then do
it over and over" which demonstrates Spencer's point. Such a Fatwa is neither
tolerant (they don't want Spencer to write any more such books) and isn't
peaceful. I find this amusing. My point is that it is funny. This is one of
the funnier sequences moving from the offense (Spencer's books and articles) to
the response (which proves the point of Spencer's books and articles).
Lawrence
------------Original Message------------
From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, Aug-8-2007 12:14 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: One of the better fatwa's
What's your point, Lawrence?
Mike Geary
Memphis
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: Lit-Ideas
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:31 AM
Subject: [lit-ideas] One of the better fatwa's
One of the most active anti-Islamists I've run across is Robert Spencer.
He wrote such books as The Myth of Islamic Tolerance: How Islamic Law Treats
Non-Muslims, Religion of Peace?; Why Christianity is and Islam isn't, The
Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), and The Truth about
Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion.
Anyway, the Islamists have had enough of him. They've filed a lawsuit
against him: "A powerful Washington, D.C. law firm told YAF that Robert was,
in essence, a hate-filled liar and that CAIR had ordered the law firm "to purse
every available and appropriate legal remedy to redress any false and
defamatory statements that made" at the conference." [sic]
And I suppose to distance themselves from the hate-filled Spencer,
they've issued a fatwa: "May Allah rip out his spine from his back and split
his brains in two, and then put them both back, and then do it over and over."
You've got to love their thought processes: You say we aren't peaceful
and tolerant? You can't get away with that: May Allay rip out your spine from
your back and split your brains in two, and then put them back, and then do it
over and over. You've got to love it.
Lawrence
ps: Where did I get this information? I was sent a letter asking me to
contribute to Spencer's legal defense fund. It was in that letter.
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