Le 21 ao=FBt 04, =E0 12:24, Erin Holder a =E9crit : >>> Philosophy is about thinking >>> rationally -- > > > > Uh oh. I'm in trouble. M.C. You'd be in trouble only if the statement =93=A0Philosophy is about=20= thinking rationally =94 were true. But it's not, or at least not without=20= qualification. If we were really doing phillosophy here, we should start with a=20= definition : what's rational thinking? There are in fact many possible=20= answers, but Analytical philosophy - that is, philosophy as it's been=20 done in Anglo-Saxon countries, pretty well exclusively, since the early=20= 1900's - assumes everybody knows that already. What *is* true is that "*anaytic* philosophy is about what *it=20= considers* as rational thought". But it could be wrong, and there are=20 other philosophical tendencies that don't cotton to this hegemony of=20 the "rational". Let's take standard formal logic, f'rinstance. Paradigmatically=20= rational, of course, and the basis of any possible philosophy, right?=20 Well, not really. Continental philosophy tends to reject it, on the=20 grounds of its =93=A0fundamental defects...the dominance of proposition,=20= the separation between language and reality, language and=20 thought....the dominance of the principles of identity and=20 non-contradiction (Franca D'Agostini, =93=A0=46rom a Continental point = of=20 view=A0: the role of logic in the Analytic-Continental divide=A0=94,=20 International Journal of Philosophical Studies, 9.3 (2001), 349-367). "=A0...as long as science is associated with reason, and reason = or=20 rationality is equivalent to logical analysis, it will be analytic=20 style which gives the imprimatur to proper philosophical=20 approaches...Analytic talk remains the dominant strategy of legitimacy=20= and distinction in the demand for clarity and coherence. And it is=20 fundamentally flawed not just for the tastes of those who are not=20 convinced of the salutary or edifying values of clarity and coherence=20 but according to its own rationalistic terms as well. For there is no=20 obvious connection between deductive (or inductive or abductive) logic=20= (or grammar or language) and ther world. Assuming...such an elemental=20 or obvious connection as axiomatic or given, the analyst ends up so=20 preoccupied with refining his or her logical tools, that he or she=20 forgets having renonced contact with the world=A0" (Babette E. Babich,=20= =93=A0On the =91=A0Analytic-Continental=A0=92 divide in philosophy. = Nietzsche and=20 Heidegger on truth, lies, and language=A0=94,=20 http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/babich02.htm=A0";. Nor does one have to be a beret-wearing, baguette-toting,=20 Gaulois-snorting Continental philosopher to suspect that standard logic=20= and the analytic philosophy based upon it might not be the only game in=20= town. In The Way we Think: conceptual blending and the mind's hidden=20 complexities (New York=A0/basic Books, 2002), Mark Turner and Gilles=20 Fauconnier argue that the emphasis on Reason in work in the humanities=20= over the past few centuries has led to an over-emphasis on form to the=20= detriment of content. The obvious and analysable processes of reason,=20 of which standard logic is a model, are merely the most apparent=20 end-results of more fundamental processes=A0: =93=A0Identity, = integration,=20 and imagination - basic, mysterious, powerful, complex, and mostly=20 unconscious opertaions - are at the heart of even the simplest possible=20= meanings. The value of the simplest forms lies in the complex emergent=20= dynamics they trigger in the imaginative mind... =93...What analtyic philosophers gloated over now was the complete=20 exclusion of figurative thought from =93=A0core meaning=A0=94. Core = meaning is,=20 as the formally minded philosopher sees it, the part of meaning that=20 can be characterized formally and truth-conditionally. Therefore, goes=20= the logic, it must be the only important and fundamental part of=20 meaning. Inevitably, these analtyic approaches were blind to the=20 imaginative operations of meaning construction that work at lightning=20 speed, below the horizon of consciousness, and leave few formal traces=20= of their complex dynamics". Finally, that bastion of analytic ethical thought, the = difference=20 between "statements of fact" and "statements of value", has recently=20 come under withering attack from no less a (formerly) analytic thinker=20= than Hilary Putnam : see The Collapse of the Fact/Value dichotomy and=20 other essays, Harvard=A0; HUP, 2002, where, based in part on the = theories=20 of Nobel-winning economist Amartya Sen, Putnam argues that fact and=20 value are inevitably entangled in all our thoughts and statements. The=20= result is that analytic philosophy's beloved ideal of Objectivity comes=20= crumbling down into pieces. I could go on, but the patience of the few brave souls who have = read=20 this far is probably already exhausted. The moral is=A0: take courage,=20= Erin. The hegemonic conception of "Reason" that has made you and so=20 many other students suffer for generations, is just a cultural fad, and=20= it may well be on its way out. Best, Mike > > > > Erin > Toronto > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > Michael Chase (goya@xxxxxxxxxxx) CNRS UPR 76 7, rue Guy Moquet Villejuif 94801 France ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html