--- Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yet when one tries to say what thought one is > expressing the 'thought' seems inevitably to take on a linguistic shape. Yes, but this would not show that there were not operative 'mental states' prior to linguistic expression - even if saying what the content of those states are _in language_ inevitably gives them "a linguistic shape." And if there are operative 'mental states' prior to their expression - or some kind of expression derived from them - then surely it does say something to speak of this as being the case. The alternatives, either that mental states and their linguistic expression are simultaneuous or the mental state of a linguistic expression follows that expression, are surely even more problemmatic? Donal ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html