On 18. Nov 2004, at 01:56, Ursula Stange wrote: > I've been looking at Magritte's painting entitled "Spinoza." > Truly, I don't get it. What was Magritte thinking? The best representation of what Magritte was thinking is to be found at http://images.google.com/images?q=3DMagritte+Spinoza&ie=3DISO-8859-1&hl=3D= en What I'm trying to say is that (I think that) what Magritte thought was=20= that painting - or, at least, the best (re)presentation of what he=20 thought is that painting; just as the best (re)presentation of what=20 Spinoza was thinking when he wrote his _Ethics_ is - surprise,=20 surprise - his _Ethics_. I am very leery of dialogical 'explanations' of 'non-dialogical' works=20= of art; even those 'connected' with some piece or collection of=20 'dialogue'. If Magritte had wished to write a dissertation on Spinoza=20= he would have done so. He painted a painting. Some may well attempt=20 some sort of verbal representation or rough equivalent of Magritte's=20 non-verbal essay - but I would be highly suspicious of any claim that=20 that is what Magritte *thought*: In fact, those suspicions extend to=20 what *artists themselves* say about their creations, or 'what they had=20= in mind' as they created them. Mind you, I'm *not* saying that dialogue generated by Magritte's=20 painting has no value. Indeed, when I have time I will post a few of=20 my thoughts (expressed verbally) which have arisen on viewing=20 Magritte's 'Spinoza' in (temporal) proximity to a couple of quotations=20= - one from, and the other about, Spinoza. Here, at least, are the quotations: "=85 if there is but one substance, and this is the whole of reality, it=20= is clear that what one ordinarily calls things, including our=20 individual selves, cannot be substances. Spinoza calls them 'modes'." "Thinking substance and extended substance are one and the same=20 substance which is now comprehended under this attribute, now under=20 that." Maybe someone else would like to have a go at linking those quotes to=20 the painting. I'll have time to compose my posting at the beginning of=20= next week. Chris Bruce Kiel, Germany -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html