[lit-ideas] Re: Magritte on Spinoza

  • From: Chris Bruce <bruce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:20:19 +0100

On 18. Nov 2004, at 01:56, Ursula Stange wrote:

> I've been looking at Magritte's painting entitled "Spinoza."
> Truly, I don't get it.   What was Magritte thinking?

The best representation of what Magritte was thinking is to be found at

http://images.google.com/images?q=3DMagritte+Spinoza&ie=3DISO-8859-1&hl=3D=
en

What I'm trying to say is that (I think that) what Magritte thought was=20=

that painting - or, at least, the best (re)presentation of what he=20
thought is that painting; just as the best (re)presentation of what=20
Spinoza was thinking when he wrote his _Ethics_ is  - surprise,=20
surprise - his _Ethics_.

I am very leery of dialogical 'explanations' of 'non-dialogical' works=20=

of art; even those 'connected' with some piece or collection of=20
'dialogue'.  If Magritte had wished to write a dissertation on Spinoza=20=

he would have done so.  He painted a painting.  Some may well attempt=20
some sort of verbal representation or rough equivalent of Magritte's=20
non-verbal essay - but I would be highly suspicious of any claim that=20
that is what Magritte *thought*:  In fact, those suspicions extend to=20
what *artists themselves* say about their creations, or 'what they had=20=

in mind' as they created them.

Mind you, I'm *not* saying that dialogue generated by Magritte's=20
painting has no value.  Indeed, when I have time I will post a few of=20
my thoughts (expressed verbally) which have arisen on viewing=20
Magritte's 'Spinoza' in (temporal) proximity to a couple of quotations=20=

- one from, and the other about, Spinoza.

Here, at least, are the quotations:

"=85 if there is but one substance, and this is the whole of reality, it=20=

is clear that what one ordinarily calls things, including our=20
individual selves, cannot be substances.  Spinoza calls them 'modes'."

"Thinking substance and extended substance are one and the same=20
substance which is now comprehended under this attribute, now under=20
that."

Maybe someone else would like to have a go at linking those quotes to=20
the painting.  I'll have time to compose my posting at the beginning of=20=

next week.

Chris Bruce
Kiel, Germany
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