[lit-ideas] Re: (K)ant Kills Creativity
- From: "veronica caley" <molleo1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:07:54 -0400
Eric:White men? This nominee of Obama's was presented as "a
latina" not as a human being. Hence her assessment will be a
"group" assessment not an assessment of her capabilities.
Question? Which of categories of people we are talking about is not a human
being? And we are all many things.
Black, white, male, female, of various origins.
Sotomayor has already been approved by the Senate once, for one of the
appellate courts. This nonsense about "Latina woman" is a fund raiser for
conservatives.
I think neither one of us believed even before this that we are a "post
racist" country. I do hope that this is not going to be a referendum on all
Hispanics, as I certainly would not want Sotomayor to lumped together with
Alberto Gonzales.
I hate to see this going on as I believe we need a two party system. And I
think these persons trashing this woman will lose enough of the Hispanic
vote to keep Republicans down for the foreseeable future.
It seems that people tend to vote with their own, however they define that.
Remember how recently Republicans won because they were so successful with
white men.
I have no Brazilian friends. But I have been in Brazil. And while they are
more integrated than we are, I saw definite separation. Socially at least.
Veronica Caley
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From: "Eric Yost" <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:48 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: (K)ant Kills Creativity
Veronica: I assume you agree with Ms. Paglia. She is absolutely one of
the most hostile, aggressive women I have ever read or listened to in
interviews.
Eric: You should not assume that I agree with everything I post. Paglia
supported Obama. I supported an imaginary ticket. Paglia is unduly fond of
Emily Dickinson. She trashed Auden in her preface to _Break, Blow, Burn_.
In posting the piece, I was more interested in the harmony it established
with my immediately prior post about Kant.
Veronica: My take on SotoMayor: what would you expect her to say when she
is speaking to a Hispanic audience? What do conservatives or liberals say
when they give speeches to their own.?
Eric: My take is that America has never been so racist. Everyone talks
about post-racist America, but, like the weather, no one does anything
about it. People are not held to a single standard of speech and conduct.
Instead we have standards of speech and conduct tailored to each and every
"group."
White men? This nominee of Obama's was presented as "a latina" not as a
human being. Hence her assessment will be a "group" assessment not an
assessment of her capabilities.
My Brazilian friends laugh at this. They see it as plain racism. And of
course, Brazilians have a "different perspective on some things because
they have had a different life experience than white men."
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