Leftists who support the party line of the Islamists, as you do, are in a bizarre self-destructive situation. If those you defend were to become triumphant, you would be destroyed. You recently wrote a "let us reason together" note that I appreciated and I responded to, but you abandoned the project for reasons not disclosed and now indicate your preference for insults. Your project of seeking to offend is banal in the extreme. Any high-school drop out can do that by sticking a finger out his automobile window. Lawrence _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Geary Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:58 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Defending Offense. Good try, Lawrence, but no cigar. As American Westerners, you and I have beheaded 30,000+ innocent Muslims in Iraq and 6,000 to 10,000 in Afghanistan. The blood of innocents drips from our hands. Don't feel so magnanimous in your new-found liberalism. Mike Geary Memphis ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence <mailto:lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Helm To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 11:47 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Defending Offense. Being Western rather than Muslim, Mike, I have no need to behead you. Lawrence _____ From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Geary Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:38 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Defending Offense. I like very much and have great respect for Judy Evans and David Savory, but I insist on my right to be offensive. I agree with much that they argue, but I agree more that I have the right as an individual human being to speak my mind whether it offends others or not. Or even to speak my mind hoping to offend others. I know of no right not to be offended. This rightwing, militaristic, devil-take-the-hindmost, coin-op culture offends me from dawn to dusk. I accept that and go about my business. Every word out of George Bush's mouth is an offensive insult to any intelligent human being. And I promise you, if this war against the Muslims being waged by Bush were not ongoing, none of this cartoon business would be happening. Not one Muslim would be in the streets were we not in Iraq. So this too can be laid at the foot of our beloved Security Hero George "Stasi" Bush. Mike Geary Memphis