My girls learn to use guns??? Am I out of my mind?!?!?! Don't answer that. My ex-husband's Mom, little tiny short fiery red-head with a short temper kept a claw hammer under her bed. Some guy started trying to break in her front door in the middle of the night. She heard him, opened the door, and beat him in the head with it until he ran screaming. I takes all kinds.... You are, though, very subtly and gradually tempting me to look into the Mossberg thing. Julie Krueger ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: Computer weirdness and rubber bullets Date: 6/1/06 7:05:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time From: _carolkir@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:carolkir@xxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: Julie, get a big ol' shotgunish thing with ammo, take shooting and gun-maintenance lessons (and have the kids take lessons) and be done with it! May you never, ever have to reach under the bed to cock that Mossberg. Sleep well, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: _JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxxx (mailto:JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Computer weirdness and rubber bullets <<Julie: You'd have to be closer?>> I certainly don't have any stats, but it's my decided impression that one could shoot a rubber bullet gun from a farther distance than the reach of a base-ball bat, giving the assaulter (is that a word?) less time to get close enough to grab the bat, etc. Am I wrong? Are rubber bullets only shot at extremely close range? A baseball bat is what -- 4' long roughly? Julie Krueger