Julie, get a big ol' shotgunish thing with ammo, take shooting and gun-maintenance lessons (and have the kids take lessons) and be done with it! May you never, ever have to reach under the bed to cock that Mossberg. Sleep well, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Computer weirdness and rubber bullets <<Julie: You'd have to be closer?>> I certainly don't have any stats, but it's my decided impression that one could shoot a rubber bullet gun from a farther distance than the reach of a base-ball bat, giving the assaulter (is that a word?) less time to get close enough to grab the bat, etc. Am I wrong? Are rubber bullets only shot at extremely close range? A baseball bat is what -- 4' long roughly? Julie Krueger