[liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: GNU license and MBraille
- From: John Gardner <john.gardner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:17:25 +0000
I have tried to get some pro bono lawyer time but failed. The unofficial
lawyer advice is mixed.
John G
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[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Creasy
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 3:28 AM
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Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: GNU license and MBraille
I agree, but it needs to be the right lawyer. One who is experienced and
knowledgeable in the area of software licensing and public licensing.
Any suggestions? Maybe we can find someone who’d review the proposal pro bono.
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[mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Aittamaa
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:51 AM
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Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: GNU license and MBraille
While I personally think this would be a sane approach, I would definitely
advice you to check this with a lawyer. Last time a license change was up for
discussion for the Linux kernel, I think the consensus was that it would be
impossible to change the license of Linux, since it would be impossible to get
consent from each and every contributor. Then again, there are a lot of
non-lawyers on LKML...
Just out of curiosity, do we know how many have decided not to use liblouis due
to the license? And how many of these are due to "concerns" regarding the
license and how many are due to actual problems, e.g. restrictions in place by
distributors such as AppStore and Windows Store?
Best,
Simon
On 15 January 2015 at 18:18, Keith Creasy
<kcreasy@xxxxxxx<mailto:kcreasy@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
John.
Perhaps it would be better to post that we plan to make the change and then
allow a period of time for anyone to respond. If no one objects we then take
that as agreement. Probably should post it on this list and on the web site.
Many things are handled that way so that if, later on down the road, someone
complains or sues someone we can show that we made reasonable efforts to inform
and get a response. 90 days should be sufficient for anyone who objects to
respond. We also have to provide instructions for submitting a response or
objection so there's no confusion. Anyone who responds should also be prepared
to identify the portion of the LibLouis project they believe they hold rights
to.
I'm not an attorney but can't imagine that this wouldn't work. Many things with
much more serious consequences are handled in this manner.
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Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: GNU license and MBraille
Hello all, it would be a great help for anybody willing to volunteer a bit of
time to help us complete polling the list for permission to change the license
to LGPL2.1. Several months ago I wrote to all the people for whom I had
contact information asking for permission for such a change.
Christian has dug out a few more addresses but many contributors are just names
on the list. It would be really good for everybody on this list to review
those names and
* if you are on that list, please respond with your agreement to change the
license,
* if you know anybody whose address is not given, contact them for permission
or send the contact information to Christian or me.
All major contributors have agreed to the change. If there are any remaining
contributors who object to the change, we will remove their contributions from
liblouis so we can move ahead. We have discussed this issue thoroughly, and
there seems to be no good reason to object to the change, so I am optimistic
that we will not need to do any removals.
Thanks!
John Gardner
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Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Re: GNU license and MBraille
On 01/13/2015 11:25 PM, Mesar Hameed wrote:
> In any case, Bert and Christian made a list of those that have
> contributed and need to give their consent.
Well Bert made the list really and John contacted most of the people on the
list.
> Lets wait for an update from Christian (last person worked on this) to
> let us know how far through we have gone, and how many people still need to
> be tracked down.
Well, the whole process is tracked in
https://github.com/liblouis/liblouis/issues/26. Currently we have consent from
57 out of 109 contributors. Someone should try to make an effort to contact the
remaining people (again, this time only asking for a move to LGPL2.1 though).
I'd be happy to help.
Thanks
Christian
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