Hi Richard, Thanks so much for the tip. Yeah, the Live View is really cool and absolutely great for certain subjects, but not moving kids. At f2 it's tricky with even a still subject without a tripod. I am also relying on the AF confirmation in the viewfinder- that seems somewhat hit/miss, but I am still getting familiar with it. I have heard focusing screens mentioned, but never actually bothered to research them at all (frankly I wasn't even sure where it is in a camera.) I checked out the Katz screen, coincidentally they have a 10% summer sale right now ;-) They're not as expensive as I imagined, plus I am actually pretty handy with fixing gadgets and can probably put the screen in myself. One nice thing about the XSi is that the viewfinder is bigger than previous Rebels- but do you think it is big enough with a focusing screen to accurately manually focus my Summicron at the more open apertures? I guess the XSi finder is close in size to that of the 30D, if not as bright. I don't have a lot of experience with manual focus cameras, so I have no feeling for how good a solution this is (not that the alternatives are so great, but I'm having fun so far.) Thanks, Steve On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Richard Ward <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Hello Steve, > I saw where you posted "I put the money towards a XSi body and am > looking forward to using the Live View to help with focusing." As someone > who cut his teeth in photography with fully manual Minolta SRT's, progressed > through their X370 to X700's, and transitioned to the uber techy EOS Film > and then Digital SLR's, I want to pass along an option you might want to > consider for your Rebel re: Focusing your Summicron. That "live view" > technology is about as geeky cool as can be, but using it to chase your kids > in changing light and distances isn't very handy at all. (The word > impossible comes to mind!) > I suggest you research getting an aftermarket Focusing Screen for you > Camera to replace the Rapid Return Mirror in your Rebel. Canon has > interchangeable screens as an option in the more expensive models, but the > rebels and xxD's aren't included in the fun unless you buy aftermarket. I > haven't replaced my screen yet, good lenses are a higher priority at the > moment! But I DEFINITELY want to. I carefully researched this topic and > there are a couple of sources you should be able to google up fairly easily. > One's called Katz, there's the very expensive beatty screens, and 1 or 2 > other's out there. > I use a 'focusing' M42 adapter with my old Zeiss, but it's invariably > inaccurate when dof gets shallow and when the working distance starts to > narrow up. That sports photo I posted before was prefocused to keep the > entire batter in the depth of field, but on the little 20D LCD I didn't > catch that it landed a bit to in front of him. It doesn't ruin the shot, but > instead of relying on adhoc adaptations of chips and sensors, I could have > quickly and easily used 50 year old technology to land my dof properly. > > Sincerely > > Richard W. > > ________________________________ > Life is hard...but I just take it one photograph at a time. > ~•~ > "You miss 100% of the shots you never take" Wayne Gretzky > ~•~ > In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows or Gates? > ~•~ > It's okay to be stupid. Just don't be gung-ho about it. > ________________________________ > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Steve Lang <stevelang@xxxxxxxxx> > *To:* LeicaReflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Sent:* Friday, July 31, 2009 1:47:40 AM > *Subject:* [LRflex] Re: Summicron 50mm take apart? > > I am currently getting the digest email, so will send all replies in a > single message- > To Doug and Aram, > > Thanks for the advice, you are completely correct. Later that night I shot > some test shots on a tripod, and got striking results compared to my other > lenses. I always knew that minor lens flaws should not impact image quality, > but this lens is great even with quite a few marks! I am very happy to have > acquired it, I would've paid much more for a 'minty' copy anyway. Instead, I > put the money towards a XSi body and am looking forward to using the Live > View to help with focusing. > > BTW Doug- it was your Leicaflex article at photo.net that inspired me to > go looking for one! > > To Richard, > > Thanks for the tip. I was actually shooting at ISO 800, my impressions of > the Canon ISO range are the same as yours. ISO 800 is very usable even with > a bit of cropping (and I've never done too much post noise-removal work > either.) I always find myself pushing the limits with my Canon 50mm at 1.8 > and ISO 800, with DSLR's I am always willing to give it a go. I'd rather > have a semi-blurry shot at the 'magic hour' than anything under the harsh > early noon sun. That's one wonderful thing about digital- with multi-GB > cards the norm, you aren't afraid to shoot a string of shots to try to make > sure you get a good one if conditions are challenging (as is usually the > case with my kids.) > > Cheers all, > Steve > >