[LRflex] Re: Summicron 50mm take apart?

  • From: Steve Lang <stevelang@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 00:51:31 -0700

Hi Richard,
Thanks so much for the tip. Yeah, the Live View is really cool and
absolutely great for certain subjects, but not moving kids. At f2 it's
tricky with even a still subject without a tripod. I am also relying on the
AF confirmation in the viewfinder- that seems somewhat hit/miss, but I am
still getting familiar with it.

I have heard focusing screens mentioned, but never actually bothered to
research them at all (frankly I wasn't even sure where it is in a camera.) I
checked out the Katz screen, coincidentally they have a 10% summer sale
right now ;-) They're not as expensive as I imagined, plus I am actually
pretty handy with fixing gadgets and can probably put the screen in myself.

One nice thing about the XSi is that the viewfinder is bigger than previous
Rebels- but do you think it is big enough with a focusing screen to
accurately manually focus my Summicron at the more open apertures? I guess
the XSi finder is close in size to that of the 30D, if not as bright. I
don't have a lot of experience with manual focus cameras, so I have no
feeling for how good a solution this is (not that the alternatives are so
great, but I'm having fun so far.)

Thanks,
Steve

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Richard Ward <ilovaussiesheps@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hello Steve,
>    I saw where you posted "I put the money towards a XSi body and am
> looking forward to using the Live View to help with focusing." As someone
> who cut his teeth in photography with fully manual Minolta SRT's, progressed
> through their X370 to X700's, and transitioned to the uber techy EOS Film
> and then Digital SLR's, I want to pass along an option you might want to
> consider for your Rebel re: Focusing your Summicron. That "live view"
> technology is about as geeky cool as can be, but using it to chase your kids
> in changing light and distances isn't very handy at all. (The word
> impossible comes to mind!)
>    I suggest you research getting an aftermarket Focusing Screen for you
> Camera to replace the Rapid Return Mirror in your Rebel. Canon has
> interchangeable screens as an option in the more expensive models, but the
> rebels and xxD's aren't included in the fun unless you buy aftermarket.  I
> haven't replaced my screen yet, good lenses are a higher priority at the
> moment! But I DEFINITELY want to. I carefully researched this topic and
> there are a couple of sources you should be able to google up fairly easily.
> One's called Katz, there's the very expensive beatty screens, and 1 or 2
> other's out there.
>    I use a 'focusing' M42 adapter with my old Zeiss, but it's invariably
> inaccurate when dof gets shallow and when the working distance starts to
> narrow up. That sports photo I posted before was prefocused to keep the
> entire batter in the depth of field, but on the little 20D LCD I didn't
> catch that it landed a bit to in front of him. It doesn't ruin the shot, but
> instead of relying on adhoc adaptations of chips and sensors, I could have
> quickly and easily used 50 year old technology to land my dof properly.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Richard W.
>
> ________________________________
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> ~•~
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> ------------------------------
> *From:* Steve Lang <stevelang@xxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* LeicaReflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Friday, July 31, 2009 1:47:40 AM
> *Subject:* [LRflex] Re: Summicron 50mm take apart?
>
> I am currently getting the digest email, so will send all replies in a
> single message-
> To Doug and Aram,
>
> Thanks for the advice, you are completely correct. Later that night I shot
> some test shots on a tripod, and got striking results compared to my other
> lenses. I always knew that minor lens flaws should not impact image quality,
> but this lens is great even with quite a few marks! I am very happy to have
> acquired it, I would've paid much more for a 'minty' copy anyway. Instead, I
> put the money towards a XSi body and am looking forward to using the Live
> View to help with focusing.
>
> BTW Doug- it was your Leicaflex article at photo.net that inspired me to
> go looking for one!
>
> To Richard,
>
> Thanks for the tip. I was actually shooting at ISO 800, my impressions of
> the Canon ISO range are the same as yours. ISO 800 is very usable even with
> a bit of cropping (and I've never done too much post noise-removal work
> either.) I always find myself pushing the limits with my Canon 50mm at 1.8
> and ISO 800, with DSLR's I am always willing to give it a go. I'd rather
> have a semi-blurry shot at the 'magic hour' than anything under the harsh
> early noon sun. That's one wonderful thing about digital- with multi-GB
> cards the norm, you aren't afraid to shoot a string of shots to try to make
> sure you get a good one if conditions are challenging (as is usually the
> case with my kids.)
>
> Cheers all,
> Steve
>
>

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