so they are going for a new S2 market, and ignoring the R market that has been faithful forever... business, not nice, and remains to be seen if it will work, Steve On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:12 PM, charles rabaa <rabaa_family@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Hey Andy > > some very wise words in your e-mail. > > It seems to me that Leica can and will only be interested in new sales.. > > What probably is the truth that Leica either doesnt know or doesn't care > about how their products are used after sale. A lot of the chat on this > site deals with purchasing second hand gear, which doesnt net Leica a cent > in revenue. > > Do you know if anyone tells Leica what they should be doing, in respect of > using Leica R glass. I suspect not. > Leica have put themselves in such an expensive niche market that is > difficult to see that they can ultimately survive. This is so particularly, > with the current economic malaise. > > I have an R5 with 3 lens and it will take a strong argument for me to park > the body and move to digital. I have to admit that digital is very > convenient though. > > New Leica equipment is extremely expensive in Australia, with the number > of dealers shrinking quickly , hence little competition, for a miniscule > market. > > Keep up the good work, interesting and quality material passes through the > site. > > regards > > Peter Rabaa > Brisbane - Australia > > > --- On *Thu, 10/9/09, Andy Wagner <yxandy2001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote: > > > From: Andy Wagner <yxandy2001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [LRflex] Re: R lens users > To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Received: Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 10:28 AM > > > Philippe > Let's get our facts right David Young brought us together on this list not > Leica:-) and for that I thank him. Lets face it we all love our R glass but > it is the skill of the user that really defines great pictures. I feel > privilaged to be in the company of this list. > Now as for Leica, something is drastically wrong there. They have a very > dedicated following in the R-users that they have totally ignored --first > with the DMR fiassco, then with the vapor 10 and now with no word on the > promise of something compatible with our glass. Do you really wonder why > they are in trouble and scrambling? How many followers have they lost due to > their missteps. Instead of the x1 p&s couldn't they have taken the startup > cash and converted the R-9 to digital. They've got the ideal body to start > with and the removal of some unneeded hardware on the inside they could have > had a real winner. It seems to me that everyone on this list doesn't give a > rat's behind if the camare has a hundred different bells, button, or > whistles. Just give us an SLR where we can set the shutter speed, f-stop and > ISO, focus confirmation, and in camera stabilization we're good to go. > If they would have introduced that, I guarentee that 99% of the people just > on this list would have tripped over each other to get their hands on one. > What Leica doesn't realize is that right now they have a very dedicated > following of R-users whose patience with broken promises is growing very, > very thin and they are sending profits to other camera manufactures because > they refuse to recognize the R-users out here. > > ------ >-- > Regards > YXAndy > > > --- On *Wed, 9/9/09, Philippe Amard <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>* wrote: > > > From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard@xxxxxx> > Subject: [LRflex] Re: R lens users > To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: "Leica Users Group" <lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 2:06 PM > > Ok 999 is a sad day for many - yet, at least Leica, in spite of its > multiple failures, have managed to get us together online and share > pictures, and friendly and gay banter - this is one major achievement to my > eyes, bigger than any other, to my eyes, only? > Bien amicalement de Metz > Philippe > > > Michiel Fokkema wrote: > > > I must admit that Leica has developed some incredible products in just a > few years. The S2 and the M9 seem to be fine cameras and classics already. > > But, where is the promised solution for the R lens users? I might have > missed something here? > > I'm quit happy using my R lenses on the Canon, but was hoping for > something more substantial from Leica. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Michiel Fokkema > > ------ > > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > > Archives are at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > > > ------ > Unsubscribe or change to/from Digest Mode at: > http://www.lrflex.furnfeather.net/ > Archives are at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/leicareflex/ > > > ------------------------------ > Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn > more<http://au..rd.yahoo.com/mail/newmail_september/*http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/> > . > -- Steve