[LRflex] Re: R lens users
- From: charles rabaa <rabaa_family@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 18:12:10 -0700 (PDT)
Hey Andy
some very wise words in your e-mail.
It seems to me that Leica can and will only be interested in new sales.
What probably is the truth that Leica either doesnt know or doesn't care about
how their products are used after sale. A lot of the chat on this site deals
with purchasing second hand gear, which doesnt net Leica a cent in revenue.
Do you know if anyone tells Leica what they should be doing, in respect of
using Leica R glass. I suspect not.
Leica have put themselves in such an expensive niche market that is difficult
to see that they can ultimately survive. This is so particularly, with the
current economic malaise.
I have an R5 with 3 lens and it will take a strong argument for me to park the
body and move to digital. I have to admit that digital is very convenient
though.
New Leica equipment is extremely expensive in Australia, with the number of
dealers shrinking quickly , hence little competition, for a miniscule market.
Keep up the good work, interesting and quality material passes through the site.
regards
Peter Rabaa
Brisbane - Australia
--- On Thu, 10/9/09, Andy Wagner <yxandy2001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Andy Wagner <yxandy2001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [LRflex] Re: R lens users
To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Received: Thursday, 10 September, 2009, 10:28 AM
Philippe
Let's get our facts right David Young brought us together on this list not
Leica:-) and for that I thank him. Lets face it we all love our R glass but it
is the skill of the user that really defines great pictures. I feel privilaged
to be in the company of this list.
Now as for Leica, something is drastically wrong there. They have a very
dedicated following in the R-users that they have totally ignored --first with
the DMR fiassco, then with the vapor 10 and now with no word on the promise of
something compatible with our glass. Do you really wonder why they are in
trouble and scrambling? How many followers have they lost due to their
missteps. Instead of the x1 p&s couldn't they have taken the startup cash and
converted the R-9 to digital. They've got the ideal body to start with and the
removal of some unneeded hardware on the inside they could have had a real
winner. It seems to me that everyone on this list doesn't give a rat's behind
if the camare has a hundred different bells, button, or whistles.. Just give us
an SLR where we can set the shutter speed, f-stop and ISO, focus confirmation,
and in camera stabilization we're good to go.
If they would have introduced that, I guarentee that 99% of the people just on
this list would have tripped over each other to get their hands on one. What
Leica doesn't realize is that right now they have a very dedicated following of
R-users whose patience with broken promises is growing very, very thin and they
are sending profits to other camera manufactures because they refuse to
recognize the R-users out here.
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Regards
YXAndy
--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Philippe Amard <philippe.amard@xxxxxx> wrote:
From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard@xxxxxx>
Subject: [LRflex] Re: R lens users
To: leicareflex@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Leica Users Group" <lug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 2:06 PM
Ok 999 is a sad day for many - yet, at least Leica, in spite of its multiple
failures, have managed to get us together online and share pictures, and
friendly and gay banter - this is one major achievement to my eyes, bigger than
any other, to my eyes, only?
Bien amicalement de Metz
Philippe
Michiel Fokkema wrote:
> I must admit that Leica has developed some incredible products in just a few
> years. The S2 and the M9 seem to be fine cameras and classics already.
> But, where is the promised solution for the R lens users? I might have missed
> something here?
> I'm quit happy using my R lenses on the Canon, but was hoping for something
> more substantial from Leica.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michiel Fokkema
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