Re: web browsers and jfw
- From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:09:21 -0500
James and all,
It seems as though the first screen reader to take advantage of the mozilla
family will be window eyes. What you have to understand though is that this
is not all good.
While ie has its problems, one of its strengths sadly is that many sites are
optimized for it especially highly secure sites ironically. Also, before
people start rushing off to dump ie and get other user agents, it is
important to remember that you can make and keep your computer safe while
running ie especially if you have windows xpsp2 and are lucky enough to be
able to run that combination and keep your computer up to date including
your anti virus software and your anti spyware software. It is also
important to remember that you cannot get rid of ie completely in windows
because it uses ie all over its self and many things you do in windows and
with microsoft software require ie so depending on what you are wanting to
do, you may find that it is harder to just dump ie than you would like it to
be and for a while to come yet, jaws users will have the best possible
experience on the web with ie.
Johnnie Apple Seed
----- Original Message -----
From: "james hooper" <aradioman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: web browsers and jfw
so do you think it will take another screen reader such as hal or window
eyes too make thiss browser accessible? and yes we truly have been spoiled
with jaws in terms of ie. i was just hoping too find another browser
without the possible security and troubles akin too ie.
----- Original Message -----
From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: web browsers and jfw
> Read about firefox and the other mozilla apps at:
> http://www.mozilla.org
> and the accessibility efforts for windows and other platforms at:
> http://www.mozilla.org/access/
>
> Mozilla and firefox have excellent windows applications but since jaws
> does
> not implement msaa in the browser and it gets more complex than that, it
> does not walk like ie does. We've been spoiled by jaws with ie and I
> agree
> that good functionality needs to be there, but the sad fact is that a lot
> of
> effort is going into making this family of applications accessible and
> success will be achieved but not necessarily with jaws.
>
> As to the functionality of firefox, if you set it up right, it is kind of
> like using jaws without the virtual cursor meaning you can tab around and
> press buttons and check checkboxes and click links, but to read content,
> you
> need to use the jaws cursor. It's much the same with netscape and sadly
> with lynx too which by the way is one of the most accessible user agents
> on
> the planet and yes, it does have a windows app.
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AB7HW Dick Lee Chrisman" <ab7hw@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:19 AM
> Subject: Re: web browsers and jfw
>
>
> My understanding is that firefox is a Lenix based program.
> I have not heard of any screen readers that function well in a Lenix
> environment, have you?
> I tried Firefox with JFW 5.00.844 and could not read anything with the PC
> cursor, only with the JFW cursor.
> I finally removed Firefox and went back to IE(Internet Explorer)!
> So it sounds good, but not JFW friendly!
> Dick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "james hooper" <aradioman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:10 AM
> Subject: web browsers and jfw
>
>
>> hi gang has anyone tried using the ulternative web browser firefox i
>> read
>> about it on the kim commando website seems this browser is not as prone
>> too attacks and such like internet explorer.
>>
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