Re: unnecessary startup programs
- From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 19:42:25 -0400
yes, deleting the freedomscientific folder from the registry should pretty
much do it but you'd have to use narrator or have someone do it who can read
the screen. Narrator is tough to use with regedit though.
Since it is a new pc, you might not have a newer driver for it. It is
possible though depending on how long the system sat around or the
components sat around or the hard drive sat around that you might need a new
driver. The best way to find out if there is a new driver is to open
control pannel, open system, ctrl+tab t the hardware page, tab to the device
manager button and activate it with space or enter, tab to the list, find
your display adapter, tab to and activate the properties button, ctrl+tab to
the driver page, click update driver and see if it finds one. There will
most likely not be a roll back.
On another note, have you run windows update since you got the pc? If it
doesn't already have sp2 on it and you haven't run it in a while, you might
want to install all the updates other than sp2 which we'll talk about in a
few weeks. I just updated a system today and found that there have been 6
new security updates posted in the last couple of weeks since I did the last
update on that system.
Don't hesitate to drop me a line off list if I can help with stuff that may
stray from the topic of jaws.
Johnnie Apple Seed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: unnecessary startup programs
Hi David
Wow. It sounds like you really know your stuff. Oops, I guess we
misused Msconfig in Windows 98 because we used selective startup all the
time.
Okay. About the video drivers. Since this is a brand new system, how
would I go about finding an older video driver? Or finding a newer one
for that matter? Since it's a Del system, do I go to the Del support
pages and check their downloads? That might show me a new driver, but I
doubt they'd offer older ones for download.
Sorry, but anything to do with drivers is beyond what I know right now.
Sorry for needing to be walked through this.
Also, if I do try uninstalling Jaws down to the registry level, how do I
find the appropriate entries in the registry? Would it be safe to find
the Freedom Scientific folder and just delete all of it? I did see that
in there under Software. I know where it is, but I can't remember
offhand right now.
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: unnecessary startup programs
> actually, msconfig was not advisable as a permenant solution in 98
> either.
> it is a diagnostic tool and if you use it and find that something is
> causing
> jaws to miss operate, you then put things back the way they were and
> fix the
> problem. It is kind of like using safe mode with flexibility. You
> don't
> run in safe mode all the time and you don't run with ms config in
> diagnostic
> mode all the time. The other thing you should know about msconfig is
> that
> some programs will put themselves back if you uncheck them or they can
> cause
> your pc to crash due to parts of them wanting to work and not being
> able to.
>
> As to your issue, it might be a good idea to reinstall your video
> driver or
> update it if it is not the newest one. If that doesn't work, rolling
> back
> the driver might fix the problem, some times, an older driver is
> better.
>
> The other thing you could resort to is uninstalling all jaws and any
> other
> freedom scientific products and other assistive technology you have on
> your
> system, cleaning all their fragments out of the registry and
> reinstalling
> them after a good disk check and defrag. I know this is labor
> intensive but
> it could well be worth it.
>
> Without doing anything, just open administrative tools, open services
> and
> walk down the list. each service has a discription and there is
> plenty of
> documentation around for services that you need more info about. It's
> easier to deal with services than it is to configure word for optimal
> use
> with jaws <grin>
>
> Johnnie Apple Seed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: unnecessary startup programs
>
>
> Hi David
>
> Thanks for that timely advice. I also did a quick Internet search,
> and
> it seems that MSconfig isn't the preferred route under XP as it was
> say
> with Windows 98 for disabling startup programs. So, I beat you to the
> punch and re-enabled the program.
>
> And doing anything with Administrative Tools and disabling services is
> way, way beyond me. I think I'd end up messing the system up and
> making
> it unstable. That would be my luck.
>
> The whole thing about text going missing is an annoyance, and I won't
> take experimental drastic steps to fix it because the cure might be
> worse than the problem. Smile.
>
> So far, FS hasn't nailed this one down. They also mentioned cursor
> blink rate, but I've set that to what they recommend. They said put
> it
> at 63 or higher.
>
> Jean
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "david poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: unnecessary startup programs
>
>
>>I can recommend this. Put msconfig back the way it was and go to
>>controll
>> pannel and remove the ati software. The video driver will be fine.
>> AS for
>> other programs and services, a lot depends on What hardware and type
>> of
>> connection you have on your computer so I am afraid there is no
>> deffinitive
>> list.
>>
>> Johnnie Apple Seed
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
>> To: "Jfw List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 4:19 PM
>> Subject: unnecessary startup programs
>>
>>
>> Well, I contacted Freedom Scientific about my disappearing text
>> problem,
>> and the first line of attack is to go to Msconfig and uncheck any ATI
>> programs that are running at startup. I've done that, but it hasn't
>> totally fixed the problem.
>>
>> But while I'm at it, I want to identify any other unnecessary startup
>> programs and uncheck them as well. Can someone recommend a website
>> that
>> discusses all the programs and whether it is safe to uncheck them in
>> Msconfig? Maybe there is another program that is the culprit.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>
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