MessageI always thought of phonetics as the way they used to teach children to read. I learned this way because I was sick a lot in first grade and my mother taught me to read. When I was in school I couldn't figure out what the teacher was telling us to do in order to read but once I started learning phoneticly I became the best reader in the class. In more recent years various boards of ed tried to rewrite the English language phoneticly so that children could learn more easily but when the kids had to read somethin in the real world like a book or newspaper they couldn't. This is what I always thought of as phonetical reading but obviously the phrase has been co-opted by other bodies to be used differently. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: Flor Lynch To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:10 PM Subject: Re: jaws spelling Whose proper is it? The branch of linguistics called phonetics - dealing with symbols for sounds - isn't the same item as that which both academic and lay people (and international air traffic bodies, etc.) refer to as thee- or a- phonetic spelling of a word or 'the phonetic alphabet'. Because it's easy and free, we may find something by going to http://en.wikipedia.org and typing 'phonetic alphabet' into the edit field. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Bron To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: Re: jaws spelling Yes but according to the proper use of the word "phonetic" it is not phonetic. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: RE: jaws spelling JFW uses the standard phonetic alphabet used by the military, the ITU, and amateur radio operators world wide. It's been pretty much a universal standard since the earliest days of screen readers (or talk programs, to use '80's vernacular). Ted -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judith Bron Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:38 PM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: jaws spelling I don't know what this way is referred to but it is not phonetic. This is using alternate words to spell out a word so that the user knows which letter is which by means of using unrelated words for each letter. For example the word many: mary, apple, nancy, yesterday I wish I knew what this way of spelling was but I don't. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki Wherry To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Re: jaws spelling Here is an example. I want JAWS to spell the word wade phonetically. It would spell it whiskey alpha delta echo. And BTW, just spelling the word with insert numpad 5 doesn't work either. Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: Yardbird To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:31 PM Subject: Re: jaws spelling Vicki, Are you sure you mean phonetically? Don't you just mean spelling things out, character by character? Because if you really are talking about having things spelled phonetically for you, there's a way to set that in the Configuration manager, and someone else here can probably direct you where to find that specific setting. but if you just mean the default way that Jaws spells out a word when you press Insert 5 as you describe, Insert 5,5, then that isn't phonetic. Just to get straight what it is that you're after. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki Wherry To: JFW List Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: jaws spelling I'm using JAWS 7.1, and for some reason, I can't get it to spell phonetically in any application. I'm pressing numpad 5 twice quickly like I always did, and it won't work in any program. Is there a setting I need to change? -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.16/582 - Release Date: 12/11/2006 4:32 PM __________ NOD32 1918 (20061212) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __________ NOD32 1918 (20061212) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com