Re: jaws spelling
- From: Judith Bron <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:25:57 -0500
MessageI always thought of phonetics as the way they used to teach children to
read. I learned this way because I was sick a lot in first grade and my mother
taught me to read. When I was in school I couldn't figure out what the teacher
was telling us to do in order to read but once I started learning phoneticly I
became the best reader in the class. In more recent years various boards of ed
tried to rewrite the English language phoneticly so that children could learn
more easily but when the kids had to read somethin in the real world like a
book or newspaper they couldn't. This is what I always thought of as
phonetical reading but obviously the phrase has been co-opted by other bodies
to be used differently. Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: Flor Lynch
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: jaws spelling
Whose proper is it? The branch of linguistics called phonetics - dealing
with symbols for sounds - isn't the same item as that which both academic and
lay people (and international air traffic bodies, etc.) refer to as thee- or
a- phonetic spelling of a word or 'the phonetic alphabet'. Because it's easy
and free, we may find something by going to
http://en.wikipedia.org
and typing 'phonetic alphabet' into the edit field.
----- Original Message -----
From: Judith Bron
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: jaws spelling
Yes but according to the proper use of the word "phonetic" it is not
phonetic.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: jaws spelling
JFW uses the standard phonetic alphabet used by the military, the ITU,
and amateur radio operators world wide. It's been pretty much a universal
standard since the earliest days of screen readers (or talk programs, to use
'80's vernacular).
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Judith Bron
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:38 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: jaws spelling
I don't know what this way is referred to but it is not phonetic. This
is using alternate words to spell out a word so that the user knows which
letter is which by means of using unrelated words for each letter. For example
the word many:
mary, apple, nancy, yesterday
I wish I knew what this way of spelling was but I don't. Judith
----- Original Message -----
From: Vicki Wherry
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: jaws spelling
Here is an example. I want JAWS to spell the word wade phonetically.
It would spell it whiskey alpha delta echo. And BTW, just spelling the word
with insert numpad 5 doesn't work either.
Vicki
----- Original Message -----
From: Yardbird
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: jaws spelling
Vicki,
Are you sure you mean phonetically? Don't you just mean spelling
things out, character by character? Because if you really are talking about
having things spelled phonetically for you, there's a way to set that in the
Configuration manager, and someone else here can probably direct you where to
find that specific setting.
but if you just mean the default way that Jaws spells out a word
when you press Insert 5 as you describe, Insert 5,5, then that isn't phonetic.
Just to get straight what it is that you're after.
----- Original Message -----
From: Vicki Wherry
To: JFW List
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:03 AM
Subject: jaws spelling
I'm using JAWS 7.1, and for some reason, I can't get it to spell
phonetically in any application. I'm pressing numpad 5 twice
quickly like I
always did, and it won't work in any program. Is there a setting I
need to
change?
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