RE: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
- From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:46:47 -0000
From comparing the synonym list with the thesaurus results in Word 2003, it
looks like the list is restricted to the first eight thesaurus results. Also,
while the thesaurus puts the results in a tree view, grouped according to which
part of speech they are (verb, noun and so on) and the shade of meaning, the
list is just a list.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Rick Harmon
Sent: 14 January 2007 23:59
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
Hi,
In that case I will try to find out what the differences between the synonym
option in the applications menu and the actual thesaurus on 2003 are. I
have Office 2000 on my notebook and will see what I can find out there but
that part will have to wait until after I get my JAWS standard license
updated to pro so I can use JAWS on the notebook since its running Windows
2000 pro.
Rick
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
Hi Jerry,
While I appreciate your interest in exploring the evolving versions of the
Word thesaurus, I was reporting only what I experienced during my initial
exploration of Word 2003, which was so unnavigable with Jaws, at least
"intuitively," as we say, that I went back to using Word 2000. I don't
regret that at all, as the earlier version is entirely appropriate and
functional in terms of my own word processing requirements. I'm sorry I
won't be able to participate in further explorations and assessment. I'm
sure there's complete descriptive information about the thesauruses of both
versions amidst the programs' own documentation, somewhere. Good luck
following up on this if you decide to invest the time.
Also, I'm sorry if Jaws misled you in some way, but the way my email handle
appears is not two words run together by accident. It's "Yardbird," one
word, no cap in the middle, no space in the middle. It was the well known
nickname of the famous jazz alto sax player Charlie Parker, which I
appropriated for my online use out of respect for him, as a playful tip of
the hat. Just plain Yardbird. It's an old Southern country folks' term.
Also, it was the name of a very influential early British rock and blues
band during the British Invasion era of the mid Sixties, but they took their
name as a tribute to Charlie Parker, out of their love for jazz, just as I
do.
Hope this helps,
Bird(the way he was called for short. Not "Yard." Although I've gotten a lot
of good laughs out of the stuff people do with that. So I'm saying all of
this in earnest, but in good cheer.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Neufeld" <jerry.neufeld@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
Hello Rick and YardBird,
I have gone to JFW 5.0 and to Office 2000 on one of my machines to compare
the results when using the thesaurus there and using it with JFW 8.0 and
Office 2003 under the synonyms subMenu. While you, Rick and YardBird, may be
entirely correct, I found the results to be nearly identical for five
adjectives with one machine and then the other. From what I can see,
Microsoft intends the synonym subMenu to take the place of the thesaurus,
the latter more inclusive only with regard to the syntactic category of the
target item.
Rick and YardBird, I would be very interested to see comparisons either of
you might make between earlier versions of Jaws and Word and more recent
versions of these programs. I would be delighted to discover that the
thesaurus, as you, Rick, claim, has more entries than synonyms, available
with the context key or right mouse click since I use this feature
extensively as a writer. Do let us know what you find so that we might
replicate your results.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
> Hi Rick,
>
> It's really obvious that that's an incomplete list. I explained it more
> precisely than this in the message I posted in direct response to Judith's
> post, earlier, if you read it.
> thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>
>
> Hi,
>
> That is a incomplete list at best. There many more words that come up in
> the thesaurus than the very few that come up the way you are saying.
>
> Rick
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Neufeld" <jerry.neufeld@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>
>
> Hello,
>
> with the cursor just to the right of the target word, as in office 2000,
> do
> a right mouse click, then hit y for synonyms and your list of choices will
> come up.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Devona Abel" <djasister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>
>
>>I am using jaws 8.0 demo.
>>
>> And Microsoft word 2003.
>>
>> I have some vision what does the menu's suppose to look like I think they
>> changed but not sure.
>>
>> And any other thing to watch for appreciated.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>>
>>
>>> While you are asking them for updates, ask them if they can update jaws
>>> 7, those of us who spent a small fortune on that program deserve better
>>> access to the thesaurus. Judith
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "cheryll" <cheryll@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 5:46 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>>>
>>>
>>>> To All Concerned:
>>>>
>>>> I am forwarding these missives to F S. Perhaps, a diligent individual
>>>> will take notice and start corrective measures, as I also have jaws 8
>>>> update, and I am reluctant to replace 7 with it!
>>>> sincerely, C
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Judith Bron" <jbron@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:10 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Nice thought but you forget that our market is also a minority and it
>>>>> should be up to the manufacturer of our software to keep up with the
>>>>> mainstream market. FS is letting us down, not Microsoft. Judith
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <tickpub@xxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:08 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick, its the old got to show off my tech skills learned at the tech
>>>>>> institute and the heck with all those people out there that are going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> pay honest, good hard earned monies for the upgrades. I think that we
>>>>>> shold begin an email campaign that lets FS know that if they keep
>>>>>> leaving
>>>>>> the real people out of the teck loop and wasting all their time on
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> worthless changes and charging big bucks for nothing but troubles,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> we will begin a worldwide protest and a Do Not Purchase Upgrades
>>>>>> campaing
>>>>>> until they take notice of our complaints!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they think this is no big deal, imagine if each of the list
>>>>>> members
>>>>>> sent out 100 emails and let everyone know that someone better start
>>>>>> listening!
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:58:55 -0500 "Rick Harmon"
>>>>>> <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>>>>>> Hi Yardbird,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's just one more place that FS has dropped the ball. Office gets
>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>> accessible with every version and all FS does is say we now support
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> latest Live messenger or some other trivial program like that for
>>>>>>> the last 3
>>>>>>> versions. JAWS stands for Job Access With Speech. Seems to me that
>>>>>>> FS
>>>>>>> would do there most to make sure we could use as much as office as
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>> to keep pace with sighted people at work. I know from experience
>>>>>>> that isn't
>>>>>>> going to happen with the way FS is supporting office currently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =======
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:53 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For this very reason, I reverted to my old Word 2000 with its
>>>>>>> traditional,
>>>>>>> simple to use Thesaurus, which works easily for me and which I know
>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>> navigate easy as pie. At this juncture, someone's likely to suggest
>>>>>>> one or
>>>>>>> another different online or free thesaurus applets, so I'll just say
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>> but Word 2000 is working just fine for me, and meets my vocabulary
>>>>>>> needs in
>>>>>>> the way that helps me perfectly.Once you learn how to use it, it's
>>>>>>> structure
>>>>>>> just like certain traditional print Thesauruses, which rely on your
>>>>>>> recognizing the various shadings of a word so you can choose a
>>>>>>> direction to
>>>>>>> go in to look for alternatives. So if Word never again comes up with
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> similarly usable thesaurus without bells and whistles and links of
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> sorts, I'll stick with my Model A Word 2000, and if that eventually
>>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>>> obsolete after the change to Vista or something, I'll resort to
>>>>>>> online sites
>>>>>>> like dictionary.com and Merriam Webster.com.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a personal vent, I guess. But you aren't the only one who's
>>>>>>> flummoxed
>>>>>>> by the Word 2003 thesaurus hassle. Again, the function and the
>>>>>>> linguistic
>>>>>>> structure of the one I use suits me to a T, so I am not looking for
>>>>>>> any free
>>>>>>> pop-up applets. I'm using "pop-up" to mean what we used to call a
>>>>>>> TSR
>>>>>>> (terminate and stay resident) program under DOS. which one of those
>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>> freebies reminds me of.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:34 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> while you can get to the synonyms list with the application key,
>>>>>>> this barely
>>>>>>> gives you any words to choose from. It's nothing compared to what
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> thesaurus gives. I've been told that the thesaurus isn't very
>>>>>>> accessible
>>>>>>> with word 2003 though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Louis Lucero" <lclucero@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:30 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Judith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the information. After messing around with it, I found
>>>>>>> that if I hit the applications key and arrow down or strike the Y
>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>> the thesaurus comes up and a list of possible words.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks so much for helping out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Louis
>>>>>>> At 04:03 PM 1/13/2007, you wrote:
>>>>>>> >I know that with jaws 7.1, and this took some getting used to, I
>>>>>>> hit
>>>>>>> >shift f7 and the first option that comes up is
>>>>>>> >"research". Sometimes you tab again and get other options, many
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> >which I haven't figured out, and if you tab one or two more times
>>>>>>> >you get to thesaurus for the word your cursor is on. For each tab
>>>>>>> >you get another synonym for that word and the next button is that
>>>>>>> >word plus the word button meaning that if you hit that button that
>>>>>>> >option will appear in your document. I hope I made myself clear
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> >that this helps.
>>>>>>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Lucero"
>>>>>>> <lclucero@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 3:38 PM
>>>>>>> >Subject: Word 2003 and the thesaurus
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>Hi List,
>>>>>>> >>I am using Jaws 8.0 and Word 2003 and am having a difficult time
>>>>>>> >>using the thesaurus. I cannot access it using Shift + F7. Can
>>>>>>> >>anybody please help? Thank you very much.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>Louis
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>"Luck is a product of hard work."
>>>>>>> >>Louis A. Lucero
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