Funny! Yeah It doesn't happen on my win98 machine at home but it happens here at work both with an alva and a braille-lite and it happened with a P450 I had running winxp. Honestly I don't remember if it happened under NT4 on that same machine. Supposedly we don't have any strange services running unless their some kind of legal spyware. I sware I got this problem fixed yesterday but today there it was. -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx