Re: Response very slow

  • From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:04:10 -0700

Vertual memory is what the computer uses for memory when all of its ram is being
used.  In Windows this is just the space left over on your hard drive.  If your
processes used up your 100MB of ram for example and your c partician has 200MB
of space and your processes still need an aditional 200MB of memory, they will
get this from the space left on your hard drive.  How in such an example, your
machine would run extremely slow and probably give you a warning before it
froze.  However if you have a D partician which has 400MB of free space, and you
tell windows to use D for virtual memory, then your processes would have an
aditional 200MB of memory to play with.  This allows them to run better.
Because your virtual memory resides on your hard drive where you place files and
folders,  as you add more stuff you're decreasing that space.  In the Unix or
Linux world they get around this problem by haveing the virtual memory, which
they call swap, on a seperate partician.  When that happens, you always have the
same amount of swap space available and when you add files to other particians,
it doesn't effect your swap.  I don't know if Windows will allow you to create a
seperate swap or virtual memory partician.  I know you don't want this virtual
memory space to be to big or to small but I don't know what is a good rule of
thumb for virtual memory size in Windows.  www.cnet.com has some good tips about
memory and system resources I know and you can always just search for virtual
memory on google
hth
Sean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Response very slow


> Would you believe this program is an antique, but for what I use it for
wordperfect 4.2 is all that I need.
>
> I did not understand what you were talking about the virtual memory.
> Walter Siren
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Response very slow
>
>
> >     I don't know what that would do if you made your main harddrive fat32.
It
> > might make all the others fat32 as well. Not sure about this at all just
> > speculating because if you formated your main drive for example, the others
go
> > away.  I personally haven't seen a dos program that won't run on fat32, I no
> > that you can't run ntfs which includes the winNT through the xp family on
fat32
> > without reformatting.  you'd probably no more about your doss programs than
I
> > would.I know ms-dos prompt and telnet and ftp have no problems under fat32.
> > Sinse you have particians, You  might be able to move where your virtual
memory
> > is.  That's under controlpannel->system->performance settings.  In any
event,
> > the double file systems may explain your problem.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Response very slow
> >
> >
> > > I have my hard drive partitioned off.  Some the drives are fat, and some
of
> > them are fat32.  The reason that I have them
> > > that way, is some of my old dos programs that I still like to use won't
run on
> > fat32.  My c: drive is fat, and my d:
> > > drive is fat32.  My jaws is on the c: drive, I guess I could change c: to
> > fat32, and I still would have a couple of
> > > other drives that are still fat where I could run those dos programs.
> > > Walter Siren
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@xxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Response very slow
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think the operating system here is the issue. because I noticed little
> > > > difference from when I had 64 vs. 384 MB of ram if I only had jaws and
the
> > > > Internet running or Jaws and Nortin Running.  I'd see how much free hard
> > Drive
> > > > space you have that might be limited and that causes problems because if
> > there's
> > > > not enough ram for what you're doing, it uses space there like it's
memory.
> > I
> > > > don't know if this applies, but does Win98SE have the drive converter to
go
> > from
> > > > fat to fat32?  If so and your file system is fat, convert to fat32.
Read
> > the
> > > > docs before doing this.  I don't thing you need to re-format first that
> > seems a
> > > > little drastic to me.  Someone I know improved there performance by
doing
> > this.
> > > > If you do and It doesn't work, you can't convert back to fat.  To find
out
> > if
> > > > you're using fat VS. fat32, go to my computer have your hard drive
> > highlited,
> > > > then go to properties.  Go to the general tab and do an insert B to read
the
> > > > dialog.  It will say the file system as well as free space and a bunch
of
> > other
> > > > things.  To see what other process are in the background, go to
> > > > programs->accessories->tools->system information and use your down arros
in
> > the
> > > > treeview.  when you open an item, hit F6 to read the items under that
> > treeView.
> > > > I'd also get the twiqui utility, I can't really spell that word, but it
> > should
> > > > be in the reskit folder of the win98 CD.  Once that's installed there a
few
> > > > things you can do which might help performance.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Walter Siren" <wsiren@xxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:47 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Response very slow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I had 128 of ram, and was told the same thing.  I now have 256, but
that
> > did
> > > > not make any difference.
> > > > > Walter Siren
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Charles McLennan" <cmclennan@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:00 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Response very slow
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Morey,
> > > > > > You need more RAM!
> > > > > > I would put in a total of 528MB if I were you!
> > > > > > Chuck
> > > > > > cmclennan@xxxxxxxxxx
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