Re: Punctuation and JAWS

I've just tried both your constructive suggestions. Unfortunately, changing punctuation control to the synthesizer had no impact, while the JAWS dictionary didn't appear to recognize a colon as a word, even if I preceded and followed it with spaces. It's possible I'm overlooking something about the dictionary, but I must say I've tried these and other methods in the past, with equal lack of success.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Punctuation and JAWS



Hi,

another way to insert pauses after punctuation could be to add them to the user dictionary with a space. I have faced your mispronounced words in single quotation marks problem as well.

Pranav
on Saturday 11/19/2005 05:54 AM, Adrian Spratt said:
I appreciate your thoughtful reply. Still, the "most" or "some" punctuation
setting question is a little different. I think of reading a long document
on the Net where a semicolon can actually alter the meaning of a sentence.
With a pause it would read one way, without a pause it reads another.
Personally, I get distracted from the content when listening to punctuation
marks being spoken. The single quotation problem is even worse, since JAWS
doesn't speak words accurately inside them. I face that issue all the time
when reading the New York Times, for example. What I find strange is that
both problems ought to be simple fixes for FS. They know how to insert
pauses after commas and other punctuation, and JAWS handles words inside
double quotations with ease.
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> Adrian, > this is just my personal preference, but I keep Jaws set to speak most > punctuation, from among the choices offered in the basics menu. which > means that I don't hear things like commas spoken, but do hear single and > double quotation marks spoken so that I am apprised that it's a quotation > or a quotation within a quotation that I'm hearing. This is essential to > me in a way it might not be for another user, I understand. As for colons > and semicolons, I don't have jaws set to speak them, and I, too, regret > that they don't produce a significant pause. I think the only way to > really be sure what was happening, aside from reading word by word, would > be to go into the Configuration Manager verbosity section and get those > and other punctuation marks to speak, though I'd hate to do it. If you're > writing something yourself, rather than reading what's already been > written by someone else, leaving two spaces after a colon (and even after > a period) in the way that seems to have gone out of fashion (a semicolon > has always required only one space following)helps to slow Jaws down > appropriately, to indicate the rhythmic nuance. But in my experience, > anyway, it isn't possible to simply have text spoken in the cadence that > accurately reflects all such punctuation, I'm afraid. What I describe are > just some tricks I've had to learn to bear with because of this. > > sometone , > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Spratt" <A.Spratt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > I find it helps my reading comprehension when JAWS pauses at commas and > other punctuation. However, it doesn't pause after colons or semicolons. > Also, JAWS reads text well between double quotation marks, but not when > the > text is between single quotations. Does anyone have any suggestions how I > can make appropriate adjustments? > > Or, as I suspect, are these limitations inherent in JAWS? In that case, > do > they interfere with other people's ability to comprehend what they read > with > JAWS? > > I've written several times to the FS suggestions email address, but > without > getting any response. > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the > way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact > the > list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release Date: 11/18/2005 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release Date: 11/18/2005 > > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > Archives located at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/jfw > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather > contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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