Adding to my remark about open source, consider this: I could have downloaded the Firefox program and proceeded to install it. After all, it's free. But I sent for the CD and got a nice coffee mug, to support the programming effort. That's value. If you'd say "Bully for you. You can afford to do it because you are working." I'd say "Yup." Francis -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx