Re: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down your computer?)

From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:26:35 -0700
Interesting.  As I gather from a couple of responses, it's AVG being a 
system hog, interfering with computer response overall during its scan.  As 
others say, schedule this scan to run when the computer is idle, and it's no 
problem.  Also, I looked more carefully this morning at what's happening, 
and it isn't only the Jaws response that's being slowed down.  In fact, I 
think I was mostly wrong to describe the problem as just being a slowdown of 
Jaws.  For instance, AVG was in the midst of its scan a couple of minutes 
ago and apparently in one of the phases of a couple of minutes where its 
resources use is especially heavy, when I punched the hotkey combination I 
use to launch Outlook Express.

Well, I guess I hadn't been paying close enough attention at times like 
this.  As I mentioned, I'm partially sighted in such a way that even though 
I can't read what's on the screen, I can generally see the patterns of the 
activity on it.  And it took quite a few seconds for Outlook Express to 
launch, a really long wait, and once my usual main Outlook Express starting 
screen came up (the view with the folders on the left, as in Windows 
Explorer, and the Inbox contents on the right), it only took another long 
second or two for Jaws to announce the action.  But just the lag time of OE 
launching was considerable.  If I couldn't see the  screen at all, I'd think 
nothing was happening, or that I'd pressed the wrong keys.

So, let's let Eloquence off the hook on this one.  AVG is simply slowing 
down the computer, altogether.

But I still love it.  Why?  It's free, it apparently keeps me safe, and low 
maintenance.  Good enough for me.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Faill" <stephen.faill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down 
your computer?)


hey have recently upgraded from 512 to 1 gig of ram and i noticed no
difference in the slightest.

i thought the pc would run a bit faster and smoother but it didn't make any
difference.

i also have macafee installed which when i look in the task manager it is
using around 33 mb which is around half of what jfw uses.

when macafee does a scan whether it be manual or scheduled i can use the pc
as normal with nothing being affected and especially not the use of jaws.

stephen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down
your computer?)


> cy,
> Well, I get what you're saying, but it's generally over my head.  I don't
> go
> in and track the system resources usage of everything like you do. I
> generally don't have any problems or frustrations, either, with my
> relatively new Dell PC with 512 Mb RAM.  Now, before someone says you just
> have to have at least twice that, especially with Jaws, I want to say that
> this, and only this situation, with AVG, provides any evidence that
> there's
> any weakness in my system in this way.  It's the only time I have any
> hangup
> of any kind that matters as this does.
>
> So, thanks for the thorough explanation, but I'll just go on bearing with
> AVG so long as it's doing a fine job and I don't have any earth-shakingly
> time-sensitive work to do on the machine while it's running.
>
> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:46 PM
> Subject: RE: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down
> your computer?)
>
>
> Well, I have noticed that Explorer is gobbling up quite a few cycpes when
> AVG does its thing.
> I believe I have been told that Explorer actually does the file look up
> for
> AVG?
> Now, as for Elequence, any software synthesizer would consume more cycles
> than the hardware synthesizers such as DEC or Triple Talk.
> In the old days whith processors below 1 ghz Eloquence did slow down the
> works. The speech was also not nearly as good as it is today.
> When I got my first processor faster than 1 ghz the quality of speech made
> agigantic improvement.
> With my current processor which is one of the AMD 64 bit jobbies it does
> not
> seem to matter that much.
> Does this help?
> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Yardbird
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:37 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down
> your computer?)
>
> cy,
>
> why are you mentioning Windows Explorer?  I don't necessarily have Windows
> Explorer running while AVG is doing its scan.  I don't usually have much
> running at all, except OE and maybe IE.
>
> As for the second thing, I guess you changed the subject and are
> suggesting
> that Eloquence may be more troublesome in a situation like this than
> another
> type of synth?
>
> Just trying to clarify.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:27 PM
> Subject: RE: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down
> your computer?)
>
>
> Yes,
> I have noticed that the system does run a little slower when AVG is doing
> its thing. It is actually Windows Explorer which is consuming most of the
> resources.
> Were I using Eloquence I think I would see a little more slow down but I
> am
> using Triple Talk.
> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Yardbird
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:11 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down your
> computer?)
>
> Cy,
> I'm a longtime user of AVG Free Edition, and I certainly haven't had any
> virus hassles all this time, and I'm not about to try another such
> program.
> But I have to say that while it's running its morning scan of my hard
> drive,
> which takes it more than 25 minutes, it slows down things just terribly.
> I'm partially sighted, so I can see that things on the screen are
> responding
> more or less normally to commands I may key in, and I suspect that if I'm
> typing an email or something that my typing is also appearing on the
> screen
> as it should.  But Jaws is really crippled by having to operate at this
> time.  I press a key, and it may be 20 seconds before Jaws speaks what
> I've
> just done, whether it's a letter I've typed or a control key I've pressed
> to
> execute something.
>
> as soon as AVG finishes its scan, it puts up a closing dialogue that
> reports
> the scan's activities and results, and allows me to close the dialogue if
> I
> don't want to wait 30 seconds for it to close itself.  I generally close
> it
> so I can go on using the computer immediately without that dialogue
> getting
> in Jaws's way or my accidentally hitting a key that activates some control
> in the dialogue and screws things up.
>
> Anyway, I've learned to just go make another cup of coffee and listen to
> some radio news during this time, and I can live with that.  But just to
> chime in.  and of course, this isn't about Jaws itself slowing down
> things,
> so I'll change the subject line.
> dialoguew dialgoue ialgoue ,=eduituib
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:51 PM
> Subject: RE: ***DHSPAM*** Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>
>
> Use AVG.
> Cy, the Ancient Okie...
>
>  _____
>
> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jeanette
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:22 PM
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: ***DHSPAM*** Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>
>
> How can I test if it is Norton without getting a virus in the process of
> no
> antivirus software?
> Jeanette
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Homuth <mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: ***DHSPAM*** Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>
> Well, my immediate reaction is to suggest that you replace Norton with
> something good that'll actually get the job done and not cost you so much
> in
> the performance department, but I understand that might not be a viable
> option for you. At which point, I'm afraid, you're out of luck.
>
> James,
> List Admin
> At 03:59 PM 9/27/2006, you wrote:
>>If it is Worton then how can I fix this?
>>Jeanette
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:dennisc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:dennisc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>dennis> >dennis
>>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>>
>>i bet its the norton thats doing it.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeanette> >Jeanette
>>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>>
>>xp media addition and I have Norton security. I all ready defragmented,
>>checked for errors, and did a dis cleanup. Both computers have been
>>slow since I first got them but now there even slower.
>>Jeanette
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:dkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Shawn>
>>>Shawn
> Keen
>>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:15 PM
>>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>>
>>hmmm, what version of windows are you running? 98? XP?
>>XP cleans up after itself pretty well I've had it on this work computer
>>for over 2 years and everything still runs fairly well.  I've had xp on
>>my home computer for  4 years and it is starting to slow down quite a
>>bit. 3 or 4 minutes at bootup.
>>
>>98SE didn't clean house very well and can drasticly slow down after a
>>year or 2
>>
>>other things you might think about, is getting a cleaner for ad aware,
>>spy ware, etc.  Defragging all that fun stuff.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeanette> >Jeanette
>>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>>
>>What else could cause computers to be slow? I have alot of memory and
>>ram so It should not be slow but it is.
>>Jeanette
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxx>James> >James
> Homuth
>>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:07 PM
>>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>>
>>Well, it's no secret JFW can at times be resource intensive. But,
>>somehow, I doubt the performance hit you take running it will be very
>>much different from if you didn't have it running. Particularly on
>>today's computers. I've run several processes I know full well are more
>>resource intensive than JFW, and this computer's nothing special, but
>>it was still fairly fast all things considered.
>>
>>James,
>>List Admin
>>At 02:45 PM 9/27/2006, you wrote:
>> >
>> >Yeah, it can! that's why when I bought this new laptop I went for
>> >over kill.  if jaws slows it down I won't notice it, this laptop is
>> >hard core enough to run a neuclear power plant. hehehehe
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From:
>> <<mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeanette>mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Je
> anette> >Jeanette>mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeanette
>> >To:
>> <<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@fre
> elists.org> >jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:24 PM
>> >Subject: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>> >
>> >I've been using Jaws for 8 years now and I've had 2 computers both of
>> >them have always been slow. Can Jaws bee the reason?
>> >Jeanette
>> >
>> >
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References:
- RE: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down your computer?)
  - From: Cy Selfridge
- Re: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down your computer?)
  - From: Yardbird
- Re: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down your computer?)
  - From: Stephen Faill
Re: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down your computer?)

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